From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 20 15:58:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from miris.lcs.mit.edu (miris.lcs.mit.edu [18.111.0.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 886C437B422 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 15:58:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from beng@localhost) by miris.lcs.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA00153; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 18:54:58 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 18:54:58 -0400 From: Benjamin Greenwald To: "O. Hartmann" Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Whats is this? FBSD 4.1 isn't stable! Message-ID: <20000920185458.B29063@lcs.mit.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from ohartman@ipamzlx.physik.uni-mainz.de on Wed, Sep 20, 2000 at 10:26:16PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This e-mail also highlights a common misconception. The "stable" in FreeBSD-Stable refers to the stability of the feature set of the releases along the branch, not the robustness of those releases. Granted the two are correlated, but there is always the possibility that you will be the unlucky (or lucky depending on your point of view) one to run into a yet undiscovered bug in an existing feature. Generally, the system gets more robust the more releases there are down a particular branch. That is one of the reasons some people continue to use FreeBSD-3.x ... they don't yet trust -Stable. -Ben Greenwald On Wed, Sep 20, 2000 at 10:26:16PM +0200, O. Hartmann wrote: > Today I got a fresh CVSUPdate. The server is running since 5 days non > stop without any problem within this time. Then, when I got the last > delta files about 4 hours ago, I tried to compile a "new world" - > but compilation stops due to an error in some OPIE stuff. Well, this > is well known, some stuff has been updated and we catch new stuff in > the middle of the update duty on the server. So, waiting ... I did a > second cvsupdate and the I tried again to make a world. And what then > happened is simply "horror"! First, the compiler stops and reported > aome kind of error and SIG 11. Well, SIG 11 is a rar error message on > my machine ... but then, a few seconds later, the system reboots - > without any warnings, without core dump, without nothing! Well - does > this mean stable when I simply compile something and then the machine > crashes? I think this is a kind of behaviour that must not happen! I > think not to have faulty hardware, because this server runs now for > about 2 and a half year without any hardware fault! > > Is anyone out here who made the same experiences? What happened? > > Gruss O. Hartmann > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > ohartman@ipamzlx.physik.uni-mainz.de > > Klimadatenserver des IPA, Universitaet Mainz Netzwerk- und > Systembetreuung > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe > freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message