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Date:      Fri, 14 Oct 2022 07:24:00 -0400
From:      Mark Saad <nonesuch@longcount.org>
To:        freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: is this FreeBSD problem or HP switch
Message-ID:  <D254C67E-0289-40AB-8329-FABE46630161@longcount.org>
In-Reply-To: <F3AB6786-920B-4E63-9268-37F097974BC2@gmail.com>
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> On Oct 13, 2022, at 10:11 PM, Zhenlei Huang <zlei.huang@gmail.com> wrote:
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> =EF=BB=BFSorry for missing CC
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>> Begin forwarded message:
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>> From: Zhenlei Huang <zlei.huang@gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: is this FreeBSD problem or HP switch
>> Date: October 14, 2022 at 10:08:13 AM GMT+8
>> To: Jason Bacon <bacon4000@gmail.com>
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>>> On Oct 14, 2022, at 8:11 AM, Jason Bacon <bacon4000@gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>> On 10/13/22 17:48, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
>>>> i have HP-2530-24G switch in home and 3 VLANs.
>>>> there was no traffic on 2 of them, one vlan have full bandwitch traffic=
 from computer A to computer B - at 1000Mbit/s
>>>> At this time ping from computer C to computer A (computer C have 100Mbi=
t/s card) was random between 1 and 1000ms.
>>>> Just limiting artifically speed to 950Mbit/s solved the problem.
>>>> Is this because switch behaves that way or can it be a FreeBSD problem (=
all computers runs FreeBSD)
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>>> I saw an issue some years ago where one of my FreeBSD servers was overwh=
elming a Cisco switch while pushing files out to HTCondor nodes, causing it t=
o drop packets.  Our networks guru confirmed the problem by monitoring the s=
witch.  Since no handshaking was possible, I worked around it by throttling t=
he interface on the FreeBSD box, using ipfw if I recall correctly.
>>>=20
>>> --=20
>>> Life is a game.  Play hard.  Play fair.  Have fun.
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>>>=20
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>> Modern x86 hardware can easily saturate Gigabit network. Probably it is n=
ot the issue of the box, or the OS ( FreeBSD in the context ).
>> There's an old post about ICMP packet drops on the HPE community, https:/=
/community.hpe.com/t5/aruba-provision-based/hp-procuvre-2530-icmp-packet-los=
t/td-p/6347333 . Although I can not conclude it is the problem of switch, bu=
t you can try connection the two FreeBSD box directly with crossover etherne=
t cable and repeat the test.
>>=20
>> Also the statistics reported by switch / OS are extremely useful in produ=
ction ( when excluding some suspicious objects is not an option ).
>>=20
>> Best regards,
>> Zhenlei

One other thing I stopped using hp switches in favor of fiber store=E2=80=99=
s fs.com white box switches a few years ago .  They are inexpensive and dece=
nt enough , and Cisco like .=20


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Mark Saad | nonesuch@longcount.org
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><br><br><div dir=3D"ltr"><blockquote type=3D=
"cite">On Oct 13, 2022, at 10:11 PM, Zhenlei Huang &lt;zlei.huang@gmail.com&=
gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"l=
tr">=EF=BB=BF<meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=
=3Dus-ascii">Sorry for missing CC<br class=3D""><div><br class=3D""><blockqu=
ote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">Begin forwarded message:</div><=
br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin=
-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;" class=3D""><span style=3D=
"font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif; co=
lor:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);" class=3D""><b class=3D"">From: </b></span><span sty=
le=3D"font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-seri=
f;" class=3D"">Zhenlei Huang &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:zlei.huang@gmail.com" cla=
ss=3D"">zlei.huang@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br class=3D""></span></div><div style=3D=
"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;" c=
lass=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, H=
elvetica, sans-serif; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);" class=3D""><b class=3D"">Su=
bject: </b></span><span style=3D"font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica=
 Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=3D""><b class=3D"">Re: is this FreeBSD p=
roblem or HP switch</b><br class=3D""></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top:=
 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;" class=3D""><=
span style=3D"font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, s=
ans-serif; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);" class=3D""><b class=3D"">Date: </b></s=
pan><span style=3D"font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helveti=
ca, sans-serif;" class=3D"">October 14, 2022 at 10:08:13 AM GMT+8<br class=3D=
""></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bot=
tom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: -webkit-=
system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0)=
;" class=3D""><b class=3D"">To: </b></span><span style=3D"font-family: -webk=
it-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=3D"">Jason Bac=
on &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bacon4000@gmail.com" class=3D"">bacon4000@gmail.com=
</a>&gt;<br class=3D""></span></div><br class=3D""><div class=3D""><meta htt=
p-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dus-ascii" class=3D"=
"><div style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break:=
 after-white-space;" class=3D""><br class=3D""><div class=3D""><br class=3D"=
"><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">On Oct 14, 2022, at 8=
:11 AM, Jason Bacon &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bacon4000@gmail.com" class=3D"">ba=
con4000@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline=
"><div class=3D""><div class=3D"">On 10/13/22 17:48, Wojciech Puchar wrote:<=
br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"">i have HP-2530-24G switch=
 in home and 3 VLANs.<br class=3D"">there was no traffic on 2 of them, one v=
lan have full bandwitch traffic from computer A to computer B - at 1000Mbit/=
s<br class=3D"">At this time ping from computer C to computer A (computer C h=
ave 100Mbit/s card) was random between 1 and 1000ms.<br class=3D"">Just limi=
ting artifically speed to 950Mbit/s solved the problem.<br class=3D"">Is thi=
s because switch behaves that way or can it be a FreeBSD problem (all comput=
ers runs FreeBSD)<br class=3D""></blockquote><br class=3D"">I saw an issue s=
ome years ago where one of my FreeBSD servers was overwhelming a Cisco switc=
h while pushing files out to HTCondor nodes, causing it to drop packets. &nb=
sp;Our networks guru confirmed the problem by monitoring the switch. &nbsp;S=
ince no handshaking was possible, I worked around it by throttling the inter=
face on the FreeBSD box, using ipfw if I recall correctly.<br class=3D""><br=
 class=3D"">-- <br class=3D"">Life is a game. &nbsp;Play hard. &nbsp;Play fa=
ir. &nbsp;Have fun.<br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D""></div></div>=
</blockquote></div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Mode=
rn x86 hardware can easily saturate Gigabit network. Probably it is not the i=
ssue of the box, or the OS ( FreeBSD in the context ).</div><div class=3D"">=
There's an old post about ICMP packet drops on the HPE community,&nbsp;<a hr=
ef=3D"https://community.hpe.com/t5/aruba-provision-based/hp-procuvre-2530-ic=
mp-packet-lost/td-p/6347333" class=3D"">https://community.hpe.com/t5/aruba-p=
rovision-based/hp-procuvre-2530-icmp-packet-lost/td-p/6347333</a>&nbsp;. Alt=
hough I can not conclude it is the problem of switch, but you can try connec=
tion the two FreeBSD box directly with crossover ethernet cable and repeat t=
he test.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Also the s=
tatistics reported by switch / OS are extremely useful in production ( when e=
xcluding some suspicious objects is not an option ).</div><div class=3D""><b=
r class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Best regards,</div><div class=3D"">Zhenle=
i</div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div=
>One other thing I stopped using hp switches in favor of fiber store=E2=80=99=
s fs.com white box switches a few years ago . &nbsp;They are inexpensive and=
 decent enough , and Cisco like .&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div><br></div>-=
--<div>Mark Saad | nonesuch@longcount.org</div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><di=
v dir=3D"ltr"><br class=3D""></div></blockquote></body></html>=

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