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Date:      Mon, 14 Sep 1998 19:05:57 +0200
From:      sthaug@nethelp.no
To:        marquis@roble.com
Cc:        freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: sshd
Message-ID:  <4809.905792757@verdi.nethelp.no>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 14 Sep 1998 09:02:30 -0700 (PDT)"
References:  <Pine.SUN.3.96.980914085125.27468B-100000@roble.com>

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> The real issue, it seems to me, is consistency.  If ftp, telnet, rsh,
> rlogin, etc. run from inetd then sshd should also.  The original reason it
> wasn't is the key generation delay, which isn't an issue on anything
> faster than a 486/25.

That may be the real issue for you - not necessarily for everybody. Also,
the key generation delay is certainly measurable. Running "ssh host date"
between two P-166 machines:

- sshd running as daemon: 1 - 1.2 seconds
- sshd running from inetd: 4 - 5 seconds

That difference may not be significant for a long term login session, but
could easily be significant for rsh type use.

Myself, I have turned off most services in /etc/inetd.conf. The fewer
services that run, the fewer possible holes. I *definitely* don't run rsh
and rlogin. For high security situations I recommend against using the
standard inetd - better to use for instance Marcus Ranum's mini-inetd
(79 lines) where you can more easily convince yourself that the code does
what you want.

Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting, sthaug@nethelp.no

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