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To: John Fieber <jfieber@indiana.edu>
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Subject: Re: Thoughts on the install and on Red Hat Linux. 
In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 25 Nov 1995 23:26:24 EST."
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Date: Sat, 25 Nov 1995 22:09:26 -0800
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From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@time.cdrom.com>
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> Just to keep focus on the ultimate purpose of the installation software, 
> making installation painless, or even fun, I offer this less technical 
> description of what is in order for the next great installation.  I think 
> developing a slick new X install program is nifty, but meaningless if some 
> more basic installation issues are not addressed first.

Hmmmmm.  This sounds suspiciously like "design before implementation"
or one of those other socialist granola-eating philosophies from the
60's at places like Berkeley & CWI.  Jeeze, he'll start quoting Wirth
next if we don't stop him!  :-)

Seriously, this sounds like a reasonable attempt to bring the techies
back down to earth.  Any human interface people care to jump in at
this point and start suggesting how John's 16 step program might be
implemented?  I'm good at thinking up the implementation details, but
not so good at the "story boarding" that John seems to be suggesting
for this stage.

					Jordan