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From: Wilko Bulte <wilko@yedi.iaf.nl>
To: Mark Newton <newton@internode.com.au>
Cc: Thomas Runge <runge@rostock.zgdv.de>, current@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: sysinstall: is it really at the end of its lifecycle?
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On Wed, Dec 15, 1999 at 11:33:19PM +1030, Mark Newton wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 15, 1999 at 10:41:56AM +0100, Thomas Runge wrote:

>  > For mainly server-oriented, the "install source to update" or
>  > console-based setups are quite enough, because the system will
>  > most probably administraded by people, that know, what they are
>  > doing.
> 
> But is it reasonable to say, "You can't play at all if you don't
> fit that description"?
> 
> (Especially since the NT server camp seems to think you can administer
> a system with zero knowledge of anything;  The requirement that they
> suddenly need to become familiar with how to deal with large archives of
> source code isn't going to help us get a foot in those doors).

Whatever [CG]UI you throw at the problem at hand: there is *NO* programmer-
fixable way out from cluelessnes. What good would be a system that is
a snap to install but once it is installed it says # to you?

-- 
Wilko Bulte 		Arnhem, The Netherlands	  - The FreeBSD Project 
    			WWW : http://www.tcja.nl  http://www.freebsd.org


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