From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 13 7:44: 9 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1503537B401; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 07:44:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (whale.sunbay.crimea.ua [212.110.138.65]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0709843FAF; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 07:44:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ru@whale.sunbay.crimea.ua) Received: from whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (ru@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (8.12.8/8.12.8/Sunbay) with ESMTP id h2DFi0FZ032513 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 13 Mar 2003 17:44:00 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from ru@whale.sunbay.crimea.ua) Received: (from ru@localhost) by whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h2DFhww2032504; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 17:43:58 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from ru) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 17:43:58 +0200 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: Eivind Eklund Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: pppd + natd (was: Re: some bugs in natd.8) Message-ID: <20030313154358.GB28029@sunbay.com> References: <20030228195412.O22034-100000@gamplex.bde.org> <20030313024936.A32285@FreeBSD.org> <20030313221709.Y4254@gamplex.bde.org> <20030313124939.GA11574@sunbay.com> <20030313054400.C32285@FreeBSD.org> <20030313135103.GA20081@sunbay.com> <20030313065546.D32285@FreeBSD.org> <20030313150528.GA28029@sunbay.com> <20030313072458.E32285@FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="8GpibOaaTibBMecb" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030313072458.E32285@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.3i Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --8GpibOaaTibBMecb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Mar 13, 2003 at 07:24:58AM -0800, Eivind Eklund wrote: [...] > > Okay, here's my question: what is/was so bad about pppd + natd? >=20 > Generating >10% of the total support load for FreeBSD on IRC is so bad > about it. And I can't give you a better answer than that, because I > haven't supported it in 3.5 years and do not remember what problems > people were having - and if it had been a single problem or two (as > you imply with your questions), I'd have SOLVED THOSE PROBLEMS rather > than going for the blanket. >=20 So you can't recall a single specific problem, other than saying they were. Okay, then how about querying our current FreeBSD users about it? It's that simple: Dear users of pppd(8) + natd(8), if there are any. Do you have/had any problems using this combination? I'd appreciate both successful and unfortunate reports, to improve documentation. Cheers, --=20 Ruslan Ermilov Sysadmin and DBA, ru@sunbay.com Sunbay Software AG, ru@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer, +380.652.512.251 Simferopol, Ukraine http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age --8GpibOaaTibBMecb Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+cKc+Ukv4P6juNwoRAsr4AKCB4prZDkv3iUEtPHjEHmXa0tzg9wCfZ/1p ZH0ukbNa1j2GZwZ2jMq81as= =sFsU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --8GpibOaaTibBMecb-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message