From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 19 21:35:25 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7E7BD797 for ; Thu, 19 Feb 2015 21:35:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3DD477A2 for ; Thu, 19 Feb 2015 21:35:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kabini1.local (rbn1-216-180-19-54.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.19.54]) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id t1JLWNgu027975 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 19 Feb 2015 15:32:23 -0600 Message-ID: <54E657DE.2070406@hiwaay.net> Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 15:38:38 -0600 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD FreeBSD Subject: Re: What's in my hard drive? How can I get rid of it? References: <54E39F83.70002@gmail.com> <20150218173047.GA53030@slackbox.erewhon.home> <20150218184227.GC26575@neutralgood.org> <20150219132221.b5d14e68.freebsd@edvax.de> <20150219081839.1a4c0359@scorpio> <54E61796.4060306@gmail.com> <20150219122446.4ff6982f@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <20150219122446.4ff6982f@scorpio> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 21:35:25 -0000 On 02/19/15 11:24, Jerry wrote: > On Thu, 19 Feb 2015 10:04:22 -0700, jd1008 stated: > >> What a pile of manure. >> Any decent and intelligent lawyer could appeal such >> cased and have the conviction thrown out of court - >> this, assuming that our court systems and judges are >> actually fully beholden to the constitution and the rule >> of law, and due process. > Just two cases in point: > > Los Angeles County > > Francisco "Franky" Carrillo was convicted of the 1991 murder of Donald Sarpy > and sentenced to life in jail. His conviction was reversed by the Los Angeles > County Superior Court on March 14, 2011, after he had served twenty years in > prison. > > Geronimo Pratt, a Black Panther leader, was convicted in 1972 of the 1968 > murder of a white school teacher and sentenced to life in jail. He was > exonerated in 1997. > > There are literally 100's of cases that are sometimes corrected after 20+ > years. Is 20+ years your idea of success? By the way, this is my number 1 > argument against the death penalty. Correct me if I am wrong, but they have > not discovered how to reanimate a corpse yet have they? > > It was reported, and I forgot what agency did the study, that not less than > 2% and not more than 7% of all incarcerated men and women in the US are > totally innocent of the crime they were convicted of.It went on to state that > these convictions were obtained though a combination of official misconduct > by the prosecution and sloppy or deliberately engineered investigations by > the police. > > These cases from NY are interesting because I actually knew some of the cops > involved in the Westchester case. > > New York > > New York County > > The Central Park Five were five Harlem teens convicted of the 1989 assault > and rape of a jogger in New York's Central Park. They served their sentences > but afterwards their convictions were set aside in 2002 when DNA evidence > cleared them and another man confessed to the crime. > > Westchester County > > In 1998 Kian Daniel Khatibi was convicted of a double stabbing after > detectives from the Village of Pleasantville falsely claimed that the victims > had identified Kian as their attacker and then forwarded this false > information to the Westchester County District Attorney. In 2008, Kian was > released from prison as the truth unraveled and the conviction was overturned. > > Jeffrey Mark Deskovic was convicted of the 1989 of rape and murder of a high > school classmate and sentenced to 15 years-life in jail. He was exonerated in > 2006 when the DNA from the crime was matched to another person. Yeah, & OJ Simpson was freed .... Your point is ? Any human endeavor will be fraught w/ human shortcomings, but the system in the USA is the best thing going, in spite of the current administration, has been for 200+ years. One can always cite individual foulups, but extrapolating those to the general case is flawed logic. That '2 - 7 %' number sounds like B.S. to me, when you look at all the scum-bags who get off, rich (John Gotti, twice, 'Fast Eddie' Edwards (Gov.(D) of La. in the '80's), also twice) & poor. The USA justice system is designed to err on the side of letting scoundrels off rather than jailing innocents .... -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr.