From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Apr 16 7:43:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from homer.softweyr.com (bsdconspiracy.net [208.187.122.220]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E2C337B42C; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 07:43:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wes@softweyr.com) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=softweyr.com ident=40ea636f26e1a62d5676ac26bcc488be) by homer.softweyr.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14pAE6-0000Vw-00; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 08:43:38 -0600 Message-ID: <3ADB051A.17674A2F@softweyr.com> Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 08:43:38 -0600 From: Wes Peters Organization: Softweyr LLC X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Cc: hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Interesting article. References: <200104160617.CAA22321@repulse.cnchost.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Bakul Shah wrote: > > > > Though, a lack of good Unicode support on FreeBSD seems like > > > a legitimate enough reason for the move. > > > > Yes, it would, if it were true, see /usr/ports/devel/libunicode. > > One port does not make good support. For that FreeBDS has to > have native unicode support. Why? All they're interested in is having unicode in their web-based app. > > In order to determine if they really made any savings or not -- I > > notice that they've increased the number of servers at Hotmail from > > 3,400 to 5,000 - you'd also have to determine how much they could have > > improved the performance by merely writing their code as an Apache > > module. > > If as they claim they doubled the performance, they saved a > few mil in not having to use 10,000 servers. My point was > they didn't save *as much money as* they could've, had they > used various performance increasing tricks we are well aware > of. We're definitely in agreement on that. They did not start this project to save money, though they claim that as a motivation. It would have (most likely) been far less expensive to make a few performance enhancements to Apache itself, or to the interface they use for their application code. Of course, that would not have been a testimonial for Win2K or IIS. > > So, was that 18 month development project really necessary from a > > technical standpoint, or only justified as a marketing cost? Nobody > > outside Microsoft management will ever really know. > > Suspect the most likely cause of conversion can be summed up > in the phrase `eating your own dogfood'. Which is fine, but it's disingenous to declare it a 'cost-saving measure' when it was obviously very expensive. -- "Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?" Wes Peters Softweyr LLC wes@softweyr.com http://softweyr.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message