From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 10 20:45:27 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33D981065672 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 20:45:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nzp@riseup.net) Received: from mx1.riseup.net (mx1.riseup.net [204.13.164.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1993F8FC08 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 20:45:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from auk.riseup.net (auk-pn.riseup.net [10.0.1.45]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.riseup.net", Issuer "Gandi Standard SSL CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4764C25F6AA for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 12:25:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (Authenticated sender: nzp@auk.riseup.net) with ESMTPSA id EACEB4D04 Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 21:25:45 +0100 From: Nikola =?utf-8?B?UGF2bG92acSH?= To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20110310202545.GB32905@sputnjik.localdomain> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Mailing List References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.96.5 at mx1 X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: Apple & FreeBSD relationship X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 20:45:27 -0000 On Wed, Mar 09, 2011 at 02:00:37PM -0800, Nerius Landys wrote: > This is not a technical question. > > Basically I have some cash sitting around. I'm thinking of investing > part of it with a company that I believe in. Apple came to mind. You > could say that I'd like to judge Apple's moral character before > investing money with them. A public company can't really have moral character. They are required to do whatever it takes to maximize profit for it's shareholders regardless of any moral considerations. Any ethical behaviour a public company may or may not display is determined by law and/or PR requirements. What I'm trying to say is that expecting a public company to be somehow inherently ethical or unethical is unreasonable (except Google and Facebook, of course, they're evil :D) > Does anyone know how Apple reciprocates to > FreeBSD? After all a lot of MacOSX is borrowed from FreeBSD. I am > not seeing Apple's name on this page: > http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/donate/sponsors.shtml . Are there > other ways in which Apple might be reciprocating? > As far as I'm aware their free/open source software contributions are not strictly FreeBSD specific, but FreeBSD does benefit. Off the top of my head, there's the Grand Central Dispatch framework which got ported to FreeBSD, and the LLVM/Clang which will soon replace GCC as the system compiler in FreeBSD (both very cool stuff). I'd say that if your investment criterion is "how much is company X giving back to the community", you could do a lot worse than Apple. Since you say you want to *invest* I won't try to persuade you to donate to the FreeBSD Foundation ;). -- No one should have to wait until after ten o'clock for his english muffin! -- Snoopy