From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 24 02:05:28 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A2E9106566B; Fri, 24 Aug 2012 02:05:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from swills@freebsd.org) Received: from mouf.net (mouf.net [IPv6:2607:fc50:0:4400:216:3eff:fe69:33b3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 071DC8FC08; Fri, 24 Aug 2012 02:05:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bender.mouf.net (bender.mouf.net [IPv6:2001:470:8:58f:21c:b3ff:feb5:bf32] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by mouf.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q7O24frV056045 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Thu, 23 Aug 2012 22:04:42 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from swills@freebsd.org) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Steve Wills In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 22:05:18 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <785B5BAD-E015-4624-B3A1-D05E1BD97E51@freebsd.org> References: <97612B57-1255-4BB3-A6D3-FC74324C6D67@FreeBSD.org> To: Eitan Adler X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (mouf.net [IPv6:2607:fc50:0:4400:216:3eff:fe69:33b3]); Thu, 23 Aug 2012 22:04:43 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.3 required=4.5 tests=RDNS_NONE autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on mouf.net X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.5 at mouf.net X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: ports@freebsd.org, Baptiste Daroussin , current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pkgng suggestion: renaming /usr/sbin/pkg to /usr/sbin/pkg-bootstrap X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 02:05:28 -0000 On Aug 23, 2012, at 9:57 PM, Eitan Adler wrote: > On 23 August 2012 18:19, Steve Wills wrote: >> Hi, >>=20 >> It seems to me that renaming the pkg binary in /usr/sbin/pkg to = /usr/sbin/pkg-bootstrap would make sense. =46rom a user standpoint, it = is confusing that running the command gets different results the second = time it is run vs. the first time. I can imagine a user saying "I ran = pkg, but it didn't do what they said it would. Now I run it again, and = it does do what it is supposed to." Also, it would enable setting up a = pkg-bootstrap man page separate from the pkg man page, without confusion = about which one you're looking at. >>=20 >> So, opinions? There may still be time to fix it for 9.1 if we can = decide quickly. >=20 > no opinion on the name, but imho there should be *something* called > "pkg" on a fresh system. Users will install a new system, follow some > random how-to, and not realize they missed a step. If the default > package errors with exit code 1 and says "run pkgbootstrap first" that > is okay too. Why can't one of those steps be to run "pkg-bootstrap"? Steve