From owner-cvs-all Sat Feb 14 01:34:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA25092 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sat, 14 Feb 1998 01:34:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [195.8.129.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA25069 for ; Sat, 14 Feb 1998 01:34:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost.cybercity.dk [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA07806; Sat, 14 Feb 1998 10:28:25 +0100 (CET) To: Joao Carlos Mendes Luis cc: julian@whistle.com (Julian Elischer), mike@smith.net.au, committers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: devfs persistance In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 14 Feb 1998 02:36:35 -0200." <199802140436.CAA01747@gaia.coppe.ufrj.br> Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 10:28:25 +0100 Message-ID: <7804.887448505@critter.freebsd.dk> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk In message <199802140436.CAA01747@gaia.coppe.ufrj.br>, Joao Carlos Mendes Luis writes: >Some questions about DEVFS. (Shouldn't this go to freebsd-hackers ?) > >1) What will be the impact on hand-created devices ? Will still be possible > to simply mknod some file on some dir and use it ? I don't like the > ideia of having to use DEVFS on chrooted environments. In such > environments not all devices should be seen, and the permissions > could be even different from the defaults. No, you cannot hand-create devices anymore. Chroot will be dealt with some way, yet to be agreed on. I share your desire about chrooted environment.s >2) What's the practical meaning of "turning DEVFS default" ? A lot of gunk like /etc/MAKEDEVS become unneeded. >3) Will DEVFS in any sense make major numbers random ? if so, my #1 > question is already answered. Not to hardcode device number is > good, but letting the kernel choose them on the fly is not good. > I like, for example, the Solaris' /etc/name_to_major approach. Better yet, it eventually will make them go away. -- Poul-Henning Kamp FreeBSD coreteam member phk@FreeBSD.ORG "Real hackers run -current on their laptop." "Drink MONO-tonic, it goes down but it will NEVER come back up!" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message