From owner-freebsd-net@freebsd.org Sun Nov 19 14:59:48 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-net@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B16FD93A0B for ; Sun, 19 Nov 2017 14:59:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: from relay2.tomsk.ru (mail.sibptus.tomsk.ru [212.73.124.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94B587B48B for ; Sun, 19 Nov 2017 14:59:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) X-Virus-Scanned: by clamd daemon 0.98.5_1 for FreeBSD at relay2.tomsk.ru Received: from [212.73.125.240] (HELO admin.sibptus.transneft.ru) by relay2.tomsk.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.16) with ESMTPS id 39869832; Sun, 19 Nov 2017 20:54:59 +0600 Received: from admin.sibptus.transneft.ru (sudakov@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by admin.sibptus.transneft.ru (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id vAJExhld084119; Sun, 19 Nov 2017 21:59:45 +0700 (+07) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: (from sudakov@localhost) by admin.sibptus.transneft.ru (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id vAJExeTQ084118; Sun, 19 Nov 2017 21:59:40 +0700 (+07) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) X-Authentication-Warning: admin.sibptus.transneft.ru: sudakov set sender to vas@mpeks.tomsk.su using -f Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2017 21:59:39 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: Eugene Grosbein Cc: "Muenz, Michael" , freebsd-net@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OpenVPN vs IPSec Message-ID: <20171119145939.GG82727@admin.sibptus.transneft.ru> References: <20171118165842.GA73810@admin.sibptus.transneft.ru> <20171119120832.GA82727@admin.sibptus.transneft.ru> <20171119143054.GC82727@admin.sibptus.transneft.ru> <5A119716.5020307@grosbein.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5A119716.5020307@grosbein.net> Organization: AO "Svyaztransneft", SibPTUS X-PGP-Key: http://www.dreamwidth.org/pubkey?user=victor_sudakov X-PGP-Fingerprint: 10E3 1171 1273 E007 C2E9 3532 0DA4 F259 9B5E C634 User-Agent: Mutt/1.9.1 (2017-09-22) X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2017 14:59:48 -0000 Eugene Grosbein wrote: > > > I have a personal success story of establishing transport mode IPSec > > between Windows and FreeBSD/racoon. But when other OSes are involved, > > I have the impression that there is no pure IPSec, it's usually > > IPSec+L2TP, and that's where the FreeBSD part becomes complicated > > (interaction between ipsec, mpd5 and racoon is required). > > No interaction between mpd5 and racoon is required to make IPSec+L2TP working. > In fact, mpd5 starts its part only when IKE/IPSEC part is already completed > and runs its unencrypted L2TP protocol over existing IPSec tunnel without knowning it. That's great but then you need 1) authentication in IKE/racoon and 2) authentication in mpd5? How do you handle that (and how do you configure the Windows client for it)? -- Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN AS43859