From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Nov 20 02:58:28 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2DE3113B116 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 02:58:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jude.obscure@yandex.com) Received: from forward105p.mail.yandex.net (forward105p.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:1472:2741:0:8b7:108]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 299DE75B59 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 02:58:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jude.obscure@yandex.com) Received: from mxback8o.mail.yandex.net (mxback8o.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:1a2d::22]) by forward105p.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id DE81C8C1E1A; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 05:58:15 +0300 (MSK) Received: from smtp3p.mail.yandex.net (smtp3p.mail.yandex.net [2a02:6b8:0:1472:2741:0:8b6:8]) by mxback8o.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTP id y8cGRGicQs-wF00Bgdx; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 05:58:15 +0300 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.com; s=mail; t=1542682695; bh=9oc5jm/zyd3h4nrr/E4bJi2QHRxMwlNTPN7H5FngsmA=; h=Subject:To:References:From:Message-ID:Date:In-Reply-To; b=dlYodb7PkBdbe+WAusMfWoGLACcZ41x218TdJR9f0zG0g6WJBISAEVjdDuGlb6j1Q hOmqRvgWxVP3gFQ4kD41BV7TiBw2k0M9CbnAsMBhMen/liF940ciPeIJMspN1uZ/oV zKAgT/FCPNDTOIr9zJROKwA4UNAQGpUAS1Ts5Cjg= Received: by smtp3p.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTPSA id S5s0sBmwII-wE54HwIL; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 05:58:15 +0300 (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client certificate not present) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.com; s=mail; t=1542682695; bh=9oc5jm/zyd3h4nrr/E4bJi2QHRxMwlNTPN7H5FngsmA=; h=Subject:To:References:From:Message-ID:Date:In-Reply-To; b=dlYodb7PkBdbe+WAusMfWoGLACcZ41x218TdJR9f0zG0g6WJBISAEVjdDuGlb6j1Q hOmqRvgWxVP3gFQ4kD41BV7TiBw2k0M9CbnAsMBhMen/liF940ciPeIJMspN1uZ/oV zKAgT/FCPNDTOIr9zJROKwA4UNAQGpUAS1Ts5Cjg= Authentication-Results: smtp3p.mail.yandex.net; dkim=pass header.i=@yandex.com Subject: Re: Future of FreeBSD: Software Store? To: MikaelNikolaev , "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" References: <7KXlAqoenASqkpmnwan1p63B8CD_twTu3fvyPu8Dc-3kLR4zFdyxZ9TSguWgfZ620s24xmkYQC7wJm0trftQ1j93i0rB4GguxNlvBY6C2OE=@protonmail.com> From: Manish Jain Message-ID: <537644cf-177d-1af1-388e-b4010a59c372@yandex.com> Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2018 08:25:14 +0530 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7KXlAqoenASqkpmnwan1p63B8CD_twTu3fvyPu8Dc-3kLR4zFdyxZ9TSguWgfZ620s24xmkYQC7wJm0trftQ1j93i0rB4GguxNlvBY6C2OE=@protonmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 299DE75B59 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.73 / 15.00]; TO_DN_EQ_ADDR_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a02:6b8:0:1000::/52]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[yandex.com]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mx.yandex.ru]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[yandex.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.87)[-0.867,0]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[yandex.com,none]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[protonmail.com]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[8.0.1.0.7.b.8.0.0.0.0.0.1.4.7.2.2.7.4.1.0.0.0.0.8.b.6.0.2.0.a.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[yandex.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:13238, ipnet:2a02:6b8::/32, country:RU]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[yandex.com]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; IP_SCORE(-1.75)[ipnet: 2a02:6b8::/32(-4.87), asn: 13238(-3.90), country: RU(0.01)]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2018 02:58:28 -0000 On 11/19/18 23:16, MikaelNikolaev via freebsd-questions wrote: > it seems very difficult to install new software onto it or otherwise learn the ins and outs of the OS This is now more true of Windows ! It takes ages to figure out how to work with Windows 7 / 10. Ever since MS moved beyond Win 2000/XP, the OS interface has crapped out. Unix'es on the other hand have become very easy to work with. Linux can be used with very little prior OS knowledge. FreeBSD expects you to have the minimum knowledge. Once you know the minimum, working with FreeBSD is like a charm. Till you do not know the minimum, you have to be willing to learn - the man pages and Google are the standard tools. The FreeBSD ports system for software installation is unbeatable, and probably just what you are looking for. To get the ports system (populated at /usr/ports), use the command: portsnap fetch extract Once you have /usr/ports, cd to any port therein you like and : make install clean I should probably mention a way to make life easier for newcomers to get started with FreeBSD. The biggest hurdle with FreeBSD has been the longish procedure for X/desktop installation - which is done separately and after the base system installation. If you are okay with KDE, I would like to exhort you to try my own preparation : pkg install mkdesktop mkdesktop It does not get much easier. Regards, Manish Jain