From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Jun 21 14:20:04 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA01478 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 14:20:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from antipodes.cdrom.com (castles145.castles.com [208.214.165.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA01404; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 14:19:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@antipodes.cdrom.com) Received: from antipodes.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by antipodes.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA01135; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 13:15:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199806212015.NAA01135@antipodes.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: sos@FreeBSD.ORG cc: hasty@netcom.com (Amancio Hasty Jr), nirva@ishiboo.com, rhh@ct.picker.com, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, hasty@rah.star-gate.com, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp Subject: Re: X-10 Mouse Remote patch In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 19 Jun 1998 18:08:03 +0200." <199806191608.SAA01533@sos.freebsd.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Date: Sun, 21 Jun 1998 13:15:05 -0700 From: Mike Smith Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id OAA01419 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > And about leaving, well, I'm afraid you guys will have to stick > with me :), I'm going to shake this (FreeBSD) out as long as it > takes, or until somebody carries me out screaming :) Good. So I don't have to pull any punches. 8) > On that note, I think we badly need a "house clean" through > the entire system, especially the kernel, but also parts of > userland, we have way to much crap in there because of not > thinking things through before pulling the trigger. If my 12+ > years in this business has learned me anything its the 80/20 > rule: think it through for 80% of the time then use 20% of > the time to implement it correctly. There hasn't been 12 years of communal software development at this level. What there has been suggests to me that a better approach is to spend 5% of the time implementing it as quickly as possible. 65% of the time arguing about why the implementation sucks, 20% of the time on abortive reimplementations and then 10% on doing it better. This 10% is then the leading 5% for the next iteration. > Well, I probably wasn't on multimedia at that time, and that doesn't > make the hack more "right", besides there is only so many things > you can keep an eye on.. The MouseRemote support is no better or worse than the support for other not-very-mouselike things that are already in there. If you have time to design and implement a better, generic "input class" structure, be our guest. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message