From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 13 21:10:01 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: current@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED8F916A400 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2007 21:10:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ticso@cicely12.cicely.de) Received: from raven.bwct.de (raven.bwct.de [85.159.14.73]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61AEF13C44C for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2007 21:10:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ticso@cicely12.cicely.de) Received: from cicely5.cicely.de ([10.1.1.7]) by raven.bwct.de (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l5DL9xXi024304; Wed, 13 Jun 2007 23:10:00 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso@cicely12.cicely.de) Received: from cicely12.cicely.de (cicely12.cicely.de [10.1.1.14]) by cicely5.cicely.de (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l5DL9qAu045636 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 13 Jun 2007 23:09:52 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso@cicely12.cicely.de) Received: from cicely12.cicely.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cicely12.cicely.de (8.13.4/8.13.3) with ESMTP id l5DL9pCr047423; Wed, 13 Jun 2007 23:09:51 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso@cicely12.cicely.de) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by cicely12.cicely.de (8.13.4/8.13.3/Submit) id l5DL9pwk047422; Wed, 13 Jun 2007 23:09:51 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 23:09:51 +0200 From: Bernd Walter To: Maksim Yevmenkin Message-ID: <20070613210951.GX42538@cicely12.cicely.de> References: <20070613150534.D83504@fledge.watson.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Operating-System: FreeBSD cicely12.cicely.de 5.4-STABLE alpha User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED=-1.8, BAYES_00=-2.599 autolearn=ham version=3.1.7 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on cicely12.cicely.de Cc: Robert Watson , current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP: IPX over IP support removed X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: ticso@cicely.de List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 21:10:02 -0000 On Wed, Jun 13, 2007 at 07:39:26AM -0700, Maksim Yevmenkin wrote: > Robert, > > [...] > > >The following subsystems remain with NET_NEEDS_GIANT dependence: > > > >i4b - ISDN framework, for which there is on-going work > > > >netatm - One of three ATM frameworks, for which there is on-going work > > > >ng_h4 - Bluetooth serial drivers -- I know of no on-going work here > > > >IPSEC - KAME IPSEC implementation, which will be removed and replaced with > > FAST_IPSEC in 7.0, once IPv6 support is committed for it. > > > >Of the above, I am concerned about ng_h4 since I've heard nothing about > >potential work on this. I believe the dependence issue has to do with > >entering the non-MPSAFE TTY code without Giant, and perhaps this is easily > >addressed... > > yes, ng_h4(4) uses giant to enter tty code. i have some code, i wrote > long time ago, similar to what ng_tty(4) does, however, i was waiting > for tty changes. > > i will see if i can fix it, or, since almost no one uses serial > bluetooth dongles anymore, retire it completely I hadn't spend much time with bluetooth yet, so this maybe a silly question. Is this for using a generic bluetooth device attached to RS232 or is this to emulate an serial connetion over BT? So far the BT devices I've seen with uart interfaces are not gerneric ones and support only the serial connection over BT in a modemstyle fashion, which doesn't need special OS support anyway. I've ordered two of those devices yesterday and it would be great if I can connect them with FreeBSD via an USB-BT adapter. -- B.Walter http://www.bwct.de http://www.fizon.de bernd@bwct.de info@bwct.de support@fizon.de