From owner-freebsd-current Tue Dec 15 21:55:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA27264 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 21:55:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from apollo.backplane.com (apollo.backplane.com [209.157.86.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA27259 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 21:55:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dillon@apollo.backplane.com) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by apollo.backplane.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA75083; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 21:54:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 21:54:28 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Dillon Message-Id: <199812160554.VAA75083@apollo.backplane.com> To: Chuck Robey Cc: Mike Smith , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, John Birrell , forrie@forrie.com Subject: Re: FreeBSD Buildworld fails References: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG : :But the reasons for keeping tcl _out_ of the main systems are a heck of :a lot larger than those for perl. Unfortunately, the tcl folks :seemingly care very little about maintaining backwards compatibility, :and many tcl tools require their own specific version of tcl/tk to run. :That's been a major problem with tcl, and I don't quite understand why :those folks can't see that. It certainly would have made tcl the ideal :language, if they'd just cared a little more about not constantly :turning tcl apps into legacy apps. I would just like to add that I have several TCL/TK projects and what Chuck is saying is 100% absolutely true. Porting between releases is a nightmare. Not only that, but tcl/tk-8 is unstable. If we were to make tcl part of the base release, it would be a disaster every time a new version came out. Maybe they've fixed their memory corruption problems, but... :Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data Matthew Dillon Engineering, HiWay Technologies, Inc. & BEST Internet Communications & God knows what else. (Please include original email in any response) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message