From owner-freebsd-hackers Sat Sep 25 15:31:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from smtp1.kolumbus.fi (smtp1.kolumbus.fi [193.229.0.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E84114E4A for ; Sat, 25 Sep 1999 15:31:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jsalomaa@saunalahti.fi) Received: from kone (kd200u2hel.dial.kolumbus.fi [193.229.43.200]) by smtp1.kolumbus.fi (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id BAA04310; Sun, 26 Sep 1999 01:30:52 +0300 (EET DST) Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1999 01:30:53 +0300 (EEST) From: Jaakko Salomaa X-Sender: jsalomaa@kone.kala.net To: "Daniel C. Sobral" Cc: Bill Fumerola , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: A new package fetching utility, pkg_get In-Reply-To: <37ECF0F4.2A30E31B@newsguy.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I'm back and boy, this has became a long thread. > > Most of what you've shown can be accomplished with 'pkg_add -r' and > > some enviromental variables. > > > > I don't see the huge benefit. > > That's because you are not a loser. Losers want plug-and-play. This > pkg_get is plug and play, pkg_add isn't. It doesn't, for instance, > automatically retrives a list of the packages available fromt he net > and show them to you. Well, I wouldn't use the word 'loser'. A 'newbie' would be more politically correct. And what's wrong with it if it's easy to use? /stand/sysinstall is, too. It still doesn't give them breast-feeding. But he was correct, the benefit is the easiness. And really, I don't think I could have pushed trough such a radical patch to pkg_add, it would have just met as much resistance, perhaps even more. I haven't posted anything to the lists before, just read them silently. But look, I mean no harm with this - if it's useless, I'll just make a port out of it and commit it. You never need to see it again. And if you think the changes should be made to pkg_add, that's a fine idea. Please do so. But in my opinion it still could become useful. What features should I actually add? I already discussed about few changes in privacy with - well, he won't mind - andrew@ugh.net.au and he made a few pretty good suggestions. This usage of master_dist_site isn't a dead idea neither. And hey, fetch(3) actually does look even better than ftpio(3). I didn't note all those routines because of my 80x24 xterm, silly me. Well, even the best of us make mistakes and I'm not definately one of them. But. I'll listen to new ideas, add as much of them as I can and send a new posting when a new version gets ready. May you live long and prosper. Jaakko Salomaa To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message