Skip site navigation (1)Skip section navigation (2)
Date:      Mon, 27 Sep 1999 20:53:10 +0200
From:      "Michael Hallgren" <m.hallgren@free.fr>
To:        <modssl-users@modssl.org>
Cc:        <freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Tr: FYI - Summary of "interim cross-wg meeting"
Message-ID:  <003701bf0919$8c217ae0$b8014b0a@fisystem.fr>

next in thread | raw e-mail | index | archive | help

Sorry, freebsd-security crowd, and real follow-up to modssl-users,


... my MUA built by Mr Gates fooled me ;)


mh

>That's why you should go
>
>    https://domain/image.gif
>
>rather than http://domain/image.gif
>
>http:// triggers the browser to connect to the HTTP default port (80),
>wheras https:// makes it connect to the port (443) serving content over
SSL.
>
>
>Cheers
>
>mh
>
>
>
>> Here is the summary and action points that resulted from our
>> "by invitation only meeting" that we had in Chicago 16/17 Sept 1999.
>>
>> Bert
>> ------------------ follwoing is a copy -------------------------
>> Date:    26 Sep 1999
>> From:    Bert Wijnen
>> To:      various WGs: diffserv, rap, policy framework, ipsp
>> Subject: Summary of "interim cross-wg meeting"
>>
>> As posted to various mailing lists a few weeks ago, the responsible
>> ADs for the above WGs did call for a cross-wg meeting (by invitation)
>> to discuss cross-wg issues and requirements.
>> In addition the WG chairs and some others WG members, we had also
>> invited a few "SNMP proponents" to help discuss/evaluate the
>> question "Why COPS and PIBs instead or in addition to SNMP and MIBs".
>>
>> Some people at the meeting though that there was a lot of anarchy
>> during the meeting. However, I myself would rather say that it was
>> clear that individual members of various WGs had different views on
>> how Policy-based management (or configuration management in general)
>> should work. There was also a difference in focus. Some people
>> focus on hig level abrstract policies and others focus on device
>> specific policies and configuration. Given the charters of the
>> involved WGs, this is understandable. But at the other hand, all
>> these WGs have the obligation to interact with each other where
>> needed, so that a total solution can emerge from the combined work
>> of the different WGs.
>>
>> So, I would like to report on the positive side.
>>
>> The meeting got the WGs talking to each other. People were "nice"
>> to each other, and I think we all came away with the feeling that
>> we need to align the work of these WGs better. To that goal, the
>> meeting decided to form 3 Design Teams as follows:
>>
>>   1. Design Team to document Terminology
>>
>>   2. Design Team to document Use Cases for Policy Based Management
>>
>>   3. Design Team for Requirements for Configuration Management
>>
>> The members of each team and the "charter" for each team are
>> listed below. As you can see, they have a very aggressive schedule
>> and we plan to discuss their results at the next IETF in Wash. D.C.
>>
>> I would like to encourage everybody to contribute as much as you can,
>> either by sending your input/views/conserns to the ONE of the
>> mailing lists. From each WG we have members in the DT, so there is
>> no need to send a comment to all 3 or 4 mailing lists.
>> My suggestion would be to use these mailing lists:
>>
>>   - Diffserv for Terminology
>>   - Policy for Use Cases
>>   - Rap for Configuration Management
>>
>> Bert
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Design Team to document Terminology
>>
>> Design Team members:
>>
>>       Francis Reichmeyer - FranR@iphighway.com
>>       Mark Stevens       - markstevens@lucent.com
>>       Dan Grossman       - dan@dma.isg.mot.com
>>       Matt Condell       - mcondell@bbn.com
>>
>> Fran is the team leader.
>>
>> The team is chartered to:
>>
>> - Document the terminology to be used for Policy Based Management.
>>   This terminology is intended to be used in all Policy related
>>   WGs and in WGs like RAP, Diffserv, IPSP and possibly others.
>>
>> Milestones:
>> 11 OCt 99 - checkpoint, possibly publish/post an interim doc
>>             so other can see where DT is going and comment
>> 22 Oct 99 - publish document as an I-D
>> 07 Nov 99 - discuss document (possibly in a BOF) at 46th IETF
>>
>> Discussions can/should take place on one or all of the
>> Policy/RAP/Diffserv/IPSP mailing lists.
>>
>> Bert
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Design Team to document Use Cases for Policy Based Management
>>
>> Design Team members:
>>
>>       Hugh F. Mahon     - mhugh@xpeditio.cnd.hp.com
>>       Shai Herzog       - herzog@iphighway.com
>>       Yoram Bernet      - yoramb@exchange.microsoft.com
>>       Luis A. Sanchez   - lsanchez@bbn.com
>>
>> Hugh is the team leader.
>>
>> The team is chartered to:
>>
>> - Document various Use Case Scenarios for Policy Based Management
>>   in such a way that readers can understand:
>>   - At what levels of Abstraction a Policy can be specified
>>     via some sort of Gui tool
>>   - How that Policy specification gets stored in a repository
>>   - How that Policy gets distributed to the Policy Servers
>>     (Consumers?) and Network Devices (Targets?).
>>   - What the various levels of abstraction are at each point
>>     and how translation (conversion/mapping?) gets done from
>>     one level of abstraction to the next
>>   - How external events impact such Policies
>>   - How changes to a Policy data (from a GUI) get notified to
>>     Policy servers/targets
>>   - How Policy Servers and Targets report back to the users
>>     at the Gui (or a management station) if and how the Policy
>>     has been installed.
>>   - How and where conflict resolution is done
>>
>> For those pieces for which we do not intern to define a
>> standard, you can describe the use of one or more existing
>> tools or concepts.
>>
>> Milestones:
>> 11 Oct 99 - checkpoint, possibly publish/post an interim doc
>>             so others can see where DT is going and comment
>> 22 Oct 99 - publish document as an I-D
>> 07 Nov 99 - discuss document in Policy WG
>>             (Brian/Kathy to include it in their agenda)
>>
>> Bert
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Design Team for Requirements for Configuration Management
>>
>> The design team has the following tasks:
>>
>> 1) Write a document that specifies the requirements for
>>    configuration management. This includes reuirements for a
>>    data model, information model, and protocols. The requirments
>>    should be specified such that current/future proposals
>>    can be evaluated.
>>
>> 2) Evaluate (and document such evaluation) the COPS-PR/SoPI
>>    and SNMP/SMI against these requirements.
>>    This task will produce a document that shows how well the
>>    current COPS-PR/SoPI and SNMP/SMI meet those requirements.
>>    In addition, potential changes will be listed to each of
>>    the 2 packages by which they would meet the requirements.
>>
>> 3) Evaluate implementation and deployment costs.
>>      -   Cost of implementation
>>      -   Time to implement
>>      -   Impact on Deployed systems
>>      -   Impact on management staffs
>>
>> Milestones:
>>
>> 20 Sep 99 - Start.
>>             Attendees of meeting send requirements to the mailing
>>             list: mumble@ops.ietf.org
>>             (to subscribe send email to mumble-request@opts.ietf.org
>>              and put the word subscribe in the body)
>>             The sooner everyone sends in requirements, the better.
>>
>> 01 Oct 99 - No more requirements accepted,
>>
>> 08 Oct 99 - or earlier
>>             Design Team (DT) publishes requirements to mumble
>>             list so everyone can check them and comment
>>
>> 15 Oct 99 - or earlier
>>             Design Team (DT) publishes a first cut of the evaluation
>>             to the mumble list so everyone can check and comment
>>
>> 22 Oct 99 - or earlier
>>             Design Team submits document(s) to I-D repository
>>             under the names of:
>>                 draft-ops-mumble-<docname>-00.txt
>>
>> 07 Nov 99 - Documents presented/evaluated at 46th IETF in mumble-BOF
>>             (name of BOF to be determined)
>>
>> Design Team Members:
>>
>>       Luis Sanchez     (ipsp)  - lsanchez@bbn.com
>>       Jon Saperia      (snmp)  - saperia@mediaone.net
>>       Keith McCloghrie (cops)  - kzm@cisco.com
>>
>> Design Team Leader: Luis Sanchez
>>
>> Notes:
>> - Would be great if Design Team can create/maintain a web page
>>   listing the submitted requirments.(Juergen may be able to
>>   help, he has done so for quite a few other design teams).
>> - Mailing list and comments are restricted to attendees/invitees
>>   of the "interim policy/rap/diffserv" meeting so as to be able
>>   to be productive and focused.
>> - There is no discussion of an SNMPv4. We're documenting a set
>>   of requirements and evaluating 2 tool-sets and we have to have
>>   no rumours about a possible SNMPv4.
>> - The team members can consult with anybody they like on any
>>   items/issues they want/need help with.
>> - The ADs (and IESG) will evaluate the situation after the 46th
>>   IETF meeting.
>>
>>
>> Bert Wijnen - IETF co-AD for Operations and Management
>>
>



To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org
with "unsubscribe freebsd-security" in the body of the message




Want to link to this message? Use this URL: <https://mail-archive.FreeBSD.org/cgi/mid.cgi?003701bf0919$8c217ae0$b8014b0a>