From owner-freebsd-security Thu Oct 5 21:48:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Received: from ego.mind.net (ego.mind.net [206.99.66.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04C7E37B502; Thu, 5 Oct 2000 21:48:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from takhus-home.ashlandfn.org (AFN-Dyn-6315110844.pc.ashlandfiber.net [63.151.108.44]) by ego.mind.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA17135; Thu, 5 Oct 2000 21:48:00 -0700 Received: from localhost (fleisher@localhost) by takhus-home.ashlandfn.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e964lkF13361; Thu, 5 Oct 2000 21:47:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from takhus@takhus.mind.net) X-Authentication-Warning: takhus-home.ashlandfn.org: fleisher owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 21:47:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Tony Fleisher X-Sender: fleisher@takhus-home.ashlandfn.org To: Brett Glass Cc: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG, Ralph Huntington Subject: Re: Stable branch In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20001005105420.04a7b540@localhost> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 5 Oct 2000, Brett Glass wrote: > At 04:06 AM 10/5/2000, Ralph Huntington wrote: > > >Stable branch is very important for production use and should incorporate > >bug fixes and security patches, but not feature enhancements. The extent > >of support and maintenance for stable should be one major release prior to > >the latest release (not current), i.e., since 4.x-RELEASE is the latest, > >then 3.x-STABLE hould be supported with bug fixes and security patches > >until a 5.x-RELEASE is out. > > > >Does this seem unreasonable? -=r=- > > > Perhaps this should be formalized as three branches: > > Branch name: Bug/security New features? "Breakable" for > fixes? a day or more? > > -PRODUCTION YES NO NO > > -STABLE YES YES, PREFERABLY NO > AFTER TESTING > IN -CURRENT > > -DEVELOPMENT YES YES YES > (formerly -CURRENT) > > What do you think of this as a model for what people seem to be > asking for? > > --Brett I have been watching this thread, and I was just about to write in suggesting nearly this exact same model when I saw your post. It certainly seems that there are two very distinct groups of people tracking -stable: those wanting new features, new hardware, etc., and those wanting simply updates for security patches and bug fixes. It seems that there are enough people in both groups that are not willing to deal with all the risks that -current brings with it that dividing -stable into two tracks seems to be the only solution to meet the needs/desires of these two groups. I also agree that support and, at least security related, maintenance should continue for one major release back, as suggested by Ralph previously. It seems that this is not too much to ask (in fact seems to be happening already, based on the MFCs to RELENG_3), and making that the "official" position may help FreeBSD gain more support in the corporate environments where an upgrade every six months is really not feasible. Just my thoughts, TOny. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-security" in the body of the message