From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 15 17:17:27 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4067D1065696; Sun, 15 Aug 2010 17:17:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=1843ec5375=killing@multiplay.co.uk) Received: from mail1.multiplay.co.uk (mail1.multiplay.co.uk [85.236.96.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 338508FC1B; Sun, 15 Aug 2010 17:17:25 +0000 (UTC) X-MDAV-Processed: mail1.multiplay.co.uk, Sun, 15 Aug 2010 18:07:17 +0100 X-Spam-Processed: mail1.multiplay.co.uk, Sun, 15 Aug 2010 18:07:17 +0100 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mail1.multiplay.co.uk X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.0 required=6.0 tests=USER_IN_WHITELIST shortcircuit=ham autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 Received: from r2d2 by mail1.multiplay.co.uk (MDaemon PRO v10.0.4) with ESMTP id md50011070231.msg; Sun, 15 Aug 2010 18:07:16 +0100 X-Authenticated-Sender: Killing@multiplay.co.uk X-MDRemoteIP: 188.220.16.49 X-Return-Path: prvs=1843ec5375=killing@multiplay.co.uk X-Envelope-From: killing@multiplay.co.uk Message-ID: <4919ED7081CD427B93477E1BD4FE13E3@multiplay.co.uk> From: "Steven Hartland" To: "Steve Kargl" , "Doug Barton" References: <4C6505A4.9060203@FreeBSD.org> <20100813085235.GA16268@freebsd.org><4C66C010.3040308@FreeBSD.org> <4C673F02.8000805@FreeBSD.org> <20100815013438.GA8958@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2010 18:07:13 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5931 Cc: delphij@freebsd.org, core@freebsd.org, Gabor Kovesdan , current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Official request: Please make GNU grep the default X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2010 17:17:27 -0000 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Kargl" > Whereas switching the default back to GNU grep *guarantees* > neither unsophisticated nor sophosticated user will test > BSD grep. > > It seems that you are letting a poor design decision with > respect to portmaster impair others contribution to FreeBSD. > I suspect that you could have added a USE_GREP knob to > the port infrastructure and updated your port to use > ports/textproc/gnugrep in the time that you have used to > post and reply here. It may be ideal to move to a bsd licensed grep implementation but anything more than a fractional slowdown is an unacceptable penalty. Doug is not seeing 1.1 times slower or even 1.5 times slower we are talking 6 - 15 times slower by his measurements and that is not something as a users we would want to use. The fact its a script and there may be more efficient ways of implementing it doesn't matter one jot. The fact that the new default grep is so much slower than the one its trying to replace is what matters, so until its brought up to a comparable speed then my vote would be switch back to GNU grep as the default. Regards Steve ================================================ This e.mail is private and confidential between Multiplay (UK) Ltd. and the person or entity to whom it is addressed. In the event of misdirection, the recipient is prohibited from using, copying, printing or otherwise disseminating it or any information contained in it. In the event of misdirection, illegible or incomplete transmission please telephone +44 845 868 1337 or return the E.mail to postmaster@multiplay.co.uk.