From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 23 08:12:09 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91B1016A4E7 for ; Tue, 23 Mar 2004 08:12:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from TRANG.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.93.134.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FF9643D1D for ; Tue, 23 Mar 2004 08:12:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by TRANG.nuxi.com (8.12.11/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i2NGC5VQ057527; Tue, 23 Mar 2004 08:12:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i2NGC4WM057526; Tue, 23 Mar 2004 08:12:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 08:12:04 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: Marcel Moolenaar Message-ID: <20040323161204.GA57329@dragon.nuxi.com> Mail-Followup-To: David O'Brien , Marcel Moolenaar , Julian Elischer , FreeBSD current users References: <20040323023303.GA1248@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040323023303.GA1248@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.2-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 cc: Julian Elischer cc: FreeBSD current users Subject: Re: SF Bay area hackfest X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 16:12:09 -0000 On Mon, Mar 22, 2004 at 06:33:03PM -0800, Marcel Moolenaar wrote: > On Mon, Mar 22, 2004 at 05:18:53PM -0800, Julian Elischer wrote: > > > > project expressd interest > > ---------------------------------------------- > > TLS/toolchain alfred, marcel, myself > > A couple of things come together: > o gdb upgrade > o New kdb framework > o TLS support + debugging > o Thread debugging I still haven't seen any plan or commitment for LTS and GDB. Other than pushing me to spend my time importing a new binutils (which is broken for sparc64). If I import a new binutils, you need a new GCC to take full advantage of it. After GCC 3.4 is imported, what *commitments* are people willing to make to carry it farther? What will that work entail? Note that ANYONE that hacks on our GDB should have FSF paperwork on file. We HAVE to get out of the mess of all of our local hacks. The reason ports/devel/gdb6 still isn't active is the mess of bringing our GDB 5.2 hacks forward to GDB 6.1. I've had a WIP for a while, but it is really painful because we haven't done any due diligence in getting our needs taken care of in stock FSF GDB. That hasn't been able to happen to date because the people that made many of our GDB commits wouldn't file FSF paperwork. :-(