From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 26 10:50:34 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2006E16A4CE for ; Fri, 26 Nov 2004 10:50:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp107.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp107.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.169.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E285B43D5D for ; Fri, 26 Nov 2004 10:50:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from diegocglinux@yahoo.es) Received: from unknown (HELO estel) (diegocglinux@80.103.15.19 with login) by smtp107.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 26 Nov 2004 10:50:32 -0000 Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2004 11:50:35 +0100 From: Diego Calleja To: "Jorn Argelo" Message-Id: <20041126115035.08b0cee6.diegocglinux@yahoo.es> In-Reply-To: <20041125221914.M81723@wcborstel.nl> References: <51611.192.168.0.200.1101398532.squirrel@192.168.0.200> <200411251706.22229.mark@markdnet.demon.co.uk> <1101405168.99948.43.camel@zircon.zircon.seattle.wa.us> <200411251807.47294.mark@markdnet.demon.co.uk> <20041125194327.C5321@bigtower.net> <1101411381.568.1.camel@grass.dyndns.org> <1101411674.99948.51.camel@zircon.zircon.seattle.wa.us> <86u0rdr9l0.fsf@srvbsdnanssv.interne.kisoft-services.com> <1101412864.568.7.camel@grass.dyndns.org> <41A63AE3.9020008@mukappabeta.de> <20041125221914.M81723@wcborstel.nl> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.99 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: the best graphicscard for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2004 10:50:34 -0000 El Thu, 25 Nov 2004 23:23:57 +0100 "Jorn Argelo" escribi=F3: [...] > Also, I don't think many people will exactly understand how it works > anyway. At least, one may assume that GPUs are really complicated.=20 >From what I've heard to the x.org guys, programming such drivers is a very complex task. Several DRI developers have access to the ATI r2xx specs and the driver is 100% opensource, but the driver is still quite inferior compared with the available binary drivers. Lack of experience of the opensource community when it comes to "graphics" is IMHO a problem too (we know how to build servers and how to build drivers for network cards, but "desktops" are somewhat different and not many people knows/cares about 3D acceleration).=20 IMHO supported opensource drivers are much better than open specs. That's what Intel seems to be doing or they are planning to do or there's a hope that they'll do, I've heard. Intel seems to be more opensource-friendly lately, at least they're releasing specs for some of their hardware, like this littel jewel: http://www.intel.com/technology/serialata/pdf/rev1_0.pdf