From owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Fri Jan 4 20:05:36 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00DC514380F8 for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2019 20:05:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mozolevsky@gmail.com) Received: from mail-oi1-f172.google.com (mail-oi1-f172.google.com [209.85.167.172]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 155E181DD7 for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2019 20:05:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mozolevsky@gmail.com) Received: by mail-oi1-f172.google.com with SMTP id t204so31285652oie.7 for ; Fri, 04 Jan 2019 12:05:34 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=G1fV4LpljeSKQK/ERvLu3OkypCpiLkllQPwhBzYXgNM=; b=UiFnlZyd66pcHH7MtdjU/6DiFvH8D4CYe0HqLnVH0NhXJ++FKxKRE9j9Nod7p3JrX3 QaWKF7WIEpE4J5u41G6yCQYNqie2kZYLERSeVrn85vdLURRl4g7HGcclADNpW/1UhuWs grpXtKRHOZP1N3AXfxRdjXXQ7jyI97zVi/ZJ7PvaTU9zLfbqq/9y1H1hScYnElNLNu8O cPmsIfwbm4N2sg1Be5UAzRAmR1JnBEZBUPdDKyCWjTTd0gwlM1dwWsInexspQMmuqy9j z/R/dEMpb/Njp+fEL+ikl8sTay6pKVYLpkJyEb+vvd3BPfmVGCBfmMc5ikmiKS0QOWHR Fs7Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AJcUukclTdJl0HFqHPwxk3k+yFlNeWLopXa2KE+GvrohY/62KgvxPsP1 iJ81MuOMw5nzoTmixVuZY2no39vWp9TGuhZ6rpSMuA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ALg8bN4OeG0bWe3Lml7bvS4dPWFDVynT8okPxGgZDjjVDtHVDhNwOsneciiVrmTs5/YqM2w/z9DWX9ee7SrR2jKQAck= X-Received: by 2002:aca:3c06:: with SMTP id j6mr1903625oia.126.1546632328439; Fri, 04 Jan 2019 12:05:28 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <201901041951.x04Jppo2029486@slippy.cwsent.com> In-Reply-To: <201901041951.x04Jppo2029486@slippy.cwsent.com> From: Igor Mozolevsky Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2019 20:04:52 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Strategic Thinking (was: Re: Speculative: Rust for base system components) To: Cy Schubert Cc: Hackers freeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 155E181DD7 X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of mozolevsky@gmail.com designates 209.85.167.172 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=mozolevsky@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.85 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.995,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:209.85.128.0/17]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-0.998,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[hybrid-lab.co.uk]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: alt3.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[172.167.85.209.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.75)[-0.751,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[igor@hybrid-lab.co.uk,mozolevsky@gmail.com]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:209.85.128.0/17, country:US]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[igor@hybrid-lab.co.uk,mozolevsky@gmail.com]; IP_SCORE(-1.10)[ipnet: 209.85.128.0/17(-3.76), asn: 15169(-1.66), country: US(-0.08)]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2019 20:05:36 -0000 On Fri, 4 Jan 2019 at 19:51, Cy Schubert wrote: > Niche. We should be more than simply a desktop O/S (which BTW I use as > my primary desktop) and we should be more than a simple bare metal O/S. Interesting, back in the 90s I went for FreeBSD (and stuck with it) for the exact opposite reasons: it was a no thrills bare metal OS that didn't try to be "everything" like Linux distros were! :-)) -- Igor M.