From owner-freebsd-security@freebsd.org Mon Dec 17 17:44:54 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-security@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E914313471D1 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2018 17:44:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsimmons0@gmail.com) Received: from mail-lj1-x236.google.com (mail-lj1-x236.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::236]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F0D1E81E45 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2018 17:44:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsimmons0@gmail.com) Received: by mail-lj1-x236.google.com with SMTP id v15-v6so11739382ljh.13 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2018 09:44:52 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=SOSlWlM1V/1DUHKYBPV00Qb2tZVUI0EjbfQ7rnWXjw0=; b=mrXZFo2K0QIDGcXlCJ66Ce31n2wtbit0w9v5jWmqH3Gkn02FwtuYpthNW+tldMANDG PEQnOpaaA1VUS7u/tJVax4TolgbPz29OKgzYufgjffB0k+Tm9bB5DpjOzHxvxO5KvjaM dNbHCx99jA/MlEO+IV583ANFdAyKEWzH+8cB0pi/ykMn/x731UuqbSMeZTJ/Sh/UO/9h cso2i8TDvhILSwc4bJxOgdaHp956EovSRPKBt+EL3YU3w9q6/Fc/b9AxyZZqJuWEQH7n vtuN6VBwyvqFcYW23xzLdA7LiWy1uM4nbt+m04GZEjzjgL494lxaiXuyvmeB7xMW40Cv HTFA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=SOSlWlM1V/1DUHKYBPV00Qb2tZVUI0EjbfQ7rnWXjw0=; b=YHVVKVn8ThqC1YDJY2nz3DGkxXwOAQ2kTfI/hbuIhu+mS2tP86ASLlWsZEeR7oApM7 m7u+9RSMdIz9pZel3HcpBgzaowWEv8fDayOsySqL/fv4f/QBk3dXQ0FGfv1Hl+qFjoxi tWoze0KuZTxyE7AQD7jjsc4ZYjF0QqstMVFOOkdRWHswT6sqAmQez3d+uiV6sI2bjsJe J39VxLU3MBbqG4i/Fgh/WAZdZXsEk1yyy4yjSWJCsZ8HBrPVhninejfKTuhZGOZnLFtS doXKeMB4hthzd3aKkYxmvI95qfqt+kxFEcASp83V7nTpIkFc5ME5baWtcg4VwE5RUNVP 7Q8g== X-Gm-Message-State: AA+aEWYqVmBRZ3SlJSXtJcihLT0t1niE+7luGPkcJyxEeVngvTUhax1j bW4RiQvPBQD7EM6GqFF+C3hAZORsJvbf9Uq7clkzbpeb X-Google-Smtp-Source: AFSGD/UbsLMJzyoU8g5KyK4oHX2y0wsPgj8TvY+61bPapwzkcC8NsENN9pUVJvLcSkfRMih+xJ2jkGNnp7L6sZpTHgE= X-Received: by 2002:a2e:20c3:: with SMTP id g64-v6mr8876618lji.101.1545068691048; Mon, 17 Dec 2018 09:44:51 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Robert Simmons Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2018 12:44:40 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: SQLite vulnerability To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: F0D1E81E45 X-Spamd-Bar: ------ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=mrXZFo2K; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of rsimmons0@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4864:20::236 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=rsimmons0@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.49 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a00:1450:4000::/36]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-security@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: alt3.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[6.3.2.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.5.4.1.0.0.a.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; IP_SCORE(-2.53)[ip: (-9.65), ipnet: 2a00:1450::/32(-1.56), asn: 15169(-1.36), country: US(-0.08)]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.95)[-0.953,0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-security@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Security issues \[members-only posting\]" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2018 17:44:54 -0000 I'm objecting to your tone, which is nearly always negative. The link I sent states the problem with your tone in a much better and more eloquent way than I can. I challenge you to change your tone when you post to the list in the future. On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 10:28 AM Roger Marquis wrote: > Robert Simmons acerbically replied: > > Since you may not read that essay on open source software, here is the > > salient point for you: > > - For users: remember when filing an issue, opening a pull request or > > making a comment on a project to be grateful that people spend their > free > > time to build software you get to use for free. Keep your frustrations > and > > The problem with Robert Simmons' line of reasoning: > > a) keeping vulxml up to date is a fixable problem, and > > b) ignoring the critical role of FreeBSD's security teams will only > result in FreeBSD boxes being hacked and end-users migrating to > Linux. > > Considering the lack of technical or logical arguments being made > against, for example, larger security teams or security team funding > (after all, we're only talking about timely entries in the vulnerability > database) it would not be unreasonable to conclude that opposition > viewpoints are simply Linux advocates. > > Roger Marquis > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-security@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-security > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-security-unsubscribe@freebsd.org > " >