From owner-freebsd-chat Thu Sep 5 17:24:43 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 132E337B400 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 17:24:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jive.SoftHome.net (jive.SoftHome.net [66.54.152.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 77CB343E3B for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 17:24:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from yid@softhome.net) Received: (qmail 11830 invoked by uid 417); 6 Sep 2002 00:24:41 -0000 Received: from shunt-smtp-out-0 (HELO softhome.net) (172.16.3.12) by shunt-smtp-out-0 with SMTP; 6 Sep 2002 00:24:41 -0000 Received: from planb ([216.194.4.17]) (AUTH: LOGIN yid@softhome.net) by softhome.net with esmtp; Thu, 05 Sep 2002 18:24:24 -0600 Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 20:23:12 -0400 From: Joshua Lee To: "Neal E. Westfall" Cc: tlambert2@mindspring.com, dave@jetcafe.org, chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Why did evolution fail? Message-Id: <20020905202312.162a6a63.yid@softhome.net> In-Reply-To: <20020905092804.S41451-100000@Tolstoy.home.lan> References: <20020905011425.7f22ac7d.yid@softhome.net> <20020905092804.S41451-100000@Tolstoy.home.lan> Organization: Plan B Software Labs X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.2claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.7) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 5 Sep 2002 09:31:03 -0700 (PDT) "Neal E. Westfall" wrote: > On Thu, 5 Sep 2002, Joshua Lee wrote: > > "Truth" is not the realm of science, science is the art of > > describing repeated empherical observations with rational > > mathematics. :-) As such it is as theological as the computer > > program I am using to compose this message; though indeed some, > > mostly laymen, do try to make it into a pseudo-religion. (Compte > > being a case in point.) > > This is completely irrational. Truth comes to us both from general > revelation (the creation) and special revelation. All truth is God's > truth. See Psalm 19. Yes, but science isn't Truth. If you're looking for proofs, the math department is down the hall. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message