From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 26 23:54:34 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABC1B1065676 for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 23:54:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+ZF=40860cea@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from mxout-03.mxes.net (mxout-03.mxes.net [216.86.168.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64D818FC1A for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 23:54:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+ZF=40860cea@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com. (unknown [87.81.140.128]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1097623E532 for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 19:54:32 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 00:54:29 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080827005429.3dece5c5@gumby.homeunix.com.> In-Reply-To: <20080826172030.GB24840@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <87abf487wg.fsf@kobe.laptop> <87abezx5yr.fsf@kobe.laptop> <871w0bpyqh.fsf@kobe.laptop> <20080826172030.GB24840@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: I can't make world without the "games" group? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 23:54:34 -0000 On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 13:20:31 -0400 Jerry McAllister wrote: > I have wondered if it might be reasonable to put a bunch of (more) > of that sort of stuff in a select list during installation so a > user can choose right then if certain things will be retained or > dropped on the floor. Most of the base system options are either highly-technical or bike-shed options like removing games. If those options are exposed in the installer, they should be buried so deep you need caving equipment. > Fortune and games and even the latest Perl > and some other things might be good candidates for that select list. > > I know there is a place where you can run through pretty much the > whole list of ports and select, but that is really too overwhelming. > I would suggest this be a separate list, mostly limited to those > things that many people want (but others don't) in the base system. Personally I think it's a very bad idea to blur the distinction between base system and packages in the installer. If you already know FreeBSD, it's potentially confusing; if you don't it just reinforces the misconception that everything is a package.