From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 06:35:45 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B909116A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 06:35:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from luzifer.incubus.de (incubus.de [80.237.207.83]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A82443D41 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 06:35:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mkb@incubus.de) Received: from [192.168.2.10] (pD9E68B73.dip.t-dialin.net [217.230.139.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by luzifer.incubus.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id A677F2EBE7; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 07:35:44 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41EA0B3F.3030209@incubus.de> Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 07:35:43 +0100 From: Matthias Buelow User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (X11/20041124) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jonathan Chen References: <20050115210617.A20158@starfire.mn.org> <20050116041626.GB13042@osiris.chen.org.nz> <41E9F612.5030901@taborandtashell.net> <20050115233404.B20530@starfire.mn.org> <20050116060442.GA847@osiris.chen.org.nz> In-Reply-To: <20050116060442.GA847@osiris.chen.org.nz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: John cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: I need a cuppa... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 06:35:45 -0000 Jonathan Chen wrote: > Blame Sun; they don't make it easy for organizations like FreeBSD > to release a binary version of Java. Even Apple doesn't show up in their radar... what do you expect. Java is as proprietary as it gets. (Unfortunately many of us need it.) mkb.