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To: "Patrick M. Hausen" Cc: FreeBSD Net References: <716a2edd-96f5-c263-2bd4-38a30808f241@omnilan.de> <050a68a3-7581-4985-e54a-e045259e8cfd@omnilan.de> <77aa3369-a6f0-e9c4-e54e-9fab0d41a937@pobox.com> From: Eric Bautsch Message-ID: <02da14d5-dcf9-1717-61e3-8e6fd61fcf4d@pobox.com> Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2019 09:01:36 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; SunOS i86pc; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha-256; boundary="------------ms040404030203040000030608" X-Pobox-Relay-ID: A27175BC-4A25-11E9-B65C-EE24A11ADF13-54785156!pb-smtp21.pobox.com X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 57DD3730F4 X-Spamd-Bar: --------- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=pobox.com header.s=sasl header.b=uKrs84 1; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=pobox.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of eric.bautsch@pobox.com designates 173.228.157.53 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=eric.bautsch@pobox.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-9.78 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:173.228.157.0/24]; HAS_ATTACHMENT(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: pb-mx11.pobox.com]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[pobox.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.99)[-0.989,0]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[pobox.com,none]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[53.157.228.173.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:11403, ipnet:173.228.157.0/24, country:US]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[pobox.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[pobox.com:s=sasl]; RCVD_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[5]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; SIGNED_SMIME(-2.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,multipart/alternative,text/plain]; IP_SCORE(-3.58)[ip: (-9.67), ipnet: 173.228.157.0/24(-4.74), asn: 11403(-3.44), country: US(-0.07)]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[] X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2019 09:02:03 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms040404030203040000030608 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Patrick. I get that point, but then I have two options only: I somehow convince th= e BIOS=20 to do a network boot over a VLAN for installation - not a capability this= BIOS=20 appears to have, or I end up creating a whole new VLAN that's either rout= ed or=20 has YP, DNS, time and installation servers on it. That's a massive headac= he.... It'd be much neater if FreeBSD could handle the tagged/untagged traffic. = It just=20 works (TM) on Solaris and Linux, so I expected it to do the same on FreeB= SD... :-( Surely, there must be a way.... Eric On 19/03/2019 07:59, Patrick M. Hausen wrote: > Hi! > >> Am 18.03.2019 um 22:12 schrieb Eric Bautsch : >> I now have a bridge0 on re0.33 which works, great. >> I now configure a bridge1 which contains re0 and put an IP on that bri= dge, and hey presto, that IP pings, but the IP on bridge0 on VLAN 33 stop= s pinging. > IMHO you should not be mixing VLAN tagged and untagged > traffic on the same interface. A port is a trunk port carrying > tagged traffic or an access port carrying untagged traffic > only. > > So you should - again, my opinion - create a VLAN, say 1 on > re0 and put re0.1 into bridge1. I know this works from > experience. > > We have some rare performance issues when combining > this with VNET but first things first =E2=80=A6 still investigating and= I=E2=80=99ll keep > the list informed. > > Kind regards, > Patrick --=20 =20 ____ / . Eric A. 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