From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 20 13:17:30 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C3A8C5D5 for ; Fri, 20 Dec 2013 13:17:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pa0-x232.google.com (mail-pa0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c03::232]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 95389138B for ; Fri, 20 Dec 2013 13:17:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pa0-f50.google.com with SMTP id kp14so747321pab.9 for ; Fri, 20 Dec 2013 05:17:30 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=WIXrJpJ1njVpV/m34h7CpCeGnne4e6cij4+ztoj80to=; b=scw3wEH74Ay85klomydy4TGVC7NWljsdRf900BrBx2mmxqGipTttd97rrASvoF09WK 6C1/kjebh1h25BN2AStq2VYSf+56pgqB8REM1ib/MByYGmXVGbuLIsWoZeGcttLsoVBY 1HbWFIgMG76IcjtMPJ6NbvvoA1MmlnykoiqTLhcTnejk3LiPQFr/suEjKWSr1e1mzh7P 5O71p5rkfTy7mOQm1FA5Obzbc3UF83obMv2IY9PzLwN3qncvRauSszGUpiv/7tPXqEdU J3P7/137ZY1MH6fb+NgTwmiClZA9GaMjI1JFDll/Ea18m9krV2GuDTqQhPA6AnxGkbTN n9/Q== X-Received: by 10.68.184.194 with SMTP id ew2mr7004474pbc.100.1387545450232; Fri, 20 Dec 2013 05:17:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.7] (ppp59-167-128-11.static.internode.on.net. [59.167.128.11]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id i10sm18671095pat.11.2013.12.20.05.17.28 for (version=TLSv1.1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 20 Dec 2013 05:17:29 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <52B44361.500@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2013 00:17:21 +1100 From: Kubilay Kocak User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:26.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/26.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: If ports@ list continues to be used as substitute for GNATS, I'm unsubscribing References: <201312201132.rBKBWEQT089240@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <201312201132.rBKBWEQT089240@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: mexas@bris.ac.uk, code@apotheon.net X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: koobs@FreeBSD.org List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2013 13:17:30 -0000 On 20/12/2013 10:32 PM, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > In other words, as a new user > I thought of sending a PR as > a last resort, because I doubted > myself a lot more than the > stability of FreeBSD and the > expertise of the team. > The actual tools to submit a PR > were never an obstacle. This. If you don't *get* what Anton just said, read it again until you do. I don't know about the rest of you, but I am that user too. A @FreeBSD.org email, commit bit and still a "new" user that doubts myself sometimes and looks to the team for the right thing to do. If not for the encouragement of those in the project who grok what motivates and demotivates people, I wouldn't be doing what I do today. This thread is a real shame, mired in technical minutia as if that's what really matters. I am here to enable and be a steward for users like Anton, and your contributions are valued. So thank you for sharing. -- koobs.