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Date:      Sat, 14 Jul 2012 11:10:31 +0200
From:      Niclas Zeising <zeising@daemonic.se>
To:        Alexey Dokuchaev <danfe@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        cvs-ports@FreeBSD.org, Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@FreeBSD.org>, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org, ports-committers@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: ports/Mk bsd.options.mk ports/x11-servers/xorg-server Makefile
Message-ID:  <50013787.8010903@daemonic.se>
In-Reply-To: <20120714090734.GA74863@FreeBSD.org>
References:  <201207131023.q6DANvUG081088@repoman.freebsd.org> <20120714070747.GB55269@FreeBSD.org> <500134AE.5050708@daemonic.se> <20120714090734.GA74863@FreeBSD.org>

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On 07/14/12 11:07, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 10:58:22AM +0200, Niclas Zeising wrote:
>> On 2012-07-14 09:07, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote:
>>> I thought HAL was deprecated anyways, why not simply disable it by default
>>> across the gang?  I've never enabled it and X server always runs fine.
>>
>> The issue with HAL is that, while it is deprecated in the Linux
>> community, we in the FreeBSD project does not have a replacement for
>> HAL, wrt automatic mounting of usb drives (which can probably be solved
>> using devd) and device recognition and addition in xorg (which is harder
>> to solve).  A lot of people expect to ust be able to run "startx" and
>> have it recognize a mouse, keyboard etc.  With that said, it is quite
>> possible, and very simple to run x without hal.  But then you need a
>> xorg.conf, and you won't get automatic recognition of devices
>> (keyboards, mice) that are plugged in after you've started x, regardless
>> of whether they are in xorg.conf or not.
>> Regards!
>
> Understood.  I never wanted automounting and do not own an USB keyboard,
> however, plugging USB or bluetooth mice always worked for me without HAL.
> Perhaps I just have a lucky xorg.conf.  ;-)
>
> ./danfe

I usually have trouble with my USB mouse if I forget to plug it in 
before starting x. Plugging it out while running x, and then plugging it 
back in usually works though.
Regards!
-- 
Niclas Zeising



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