From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 20 13:46:42 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA18805 for current-outgoing; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 13:46:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from super-g.inch.com (super-g.com [207.240.140.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA18785; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 13:46:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from spork@super-g.com) Received: from localhost (spork@localhost) by super-g.inch.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA15278; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 20:42:18 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 20:42:18 -0400 (EDT) From: spork X-Sender: spork@super-g.inch.com To: dyson@FreeBSD.ORG cc: Greg Lehey , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: usable current SNAP In-Reply-To: <199710190259.VAA01896@dyson.iquest.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, Since everyone's on the topic, how about this application: I need to build a big database server, and am looking to run it on a dual-processor machine. The database we need to use is mysql, which I believe can take advantage of 3.0's threads... Is this wise or not? Charles On Sat, 18 Oct 1997, John S. Dyson wrote: > Greg Lehey said: > > On Sat, Oct 18, 1997 at 06:55:43PM -0600, Steve Passe wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > I need to bring up a web server this week using current. This needs to > > > be a "works first time" installation (to impress a client). > > > > I don't understand this. This is *not* the purpose of -current. To > > quote: > > > (good comments from Greg deleted) > > > > > If you want to impress a customer, I would have thought that -stable > > would be a much better choice. > > > The only point that I might disagree with you on is that there are times > that there are necessary features in -current. Basically, with -current > the person who uses it is on their own. Hopefully, those who use it don't > end up giving FreeBSD a bad reputation because of the pre-Alpha/Alpha/Beta > quality of the code. Important features would be practically the only > reason for violating the "rule." -stable and -current aren't that far > away in performance (it isn't like 2.1 vs. 2.2.), 2.2 and 3.0 are pretty > close. > > My opinion is that those who use -current in production get absolutely > no sympathy from me (or most others on the team.) However, some people > who are actively contributing to FreeBSD get quite a bit more leeway (I am > willing to go further out of my way to help) than others. (They are more > likely to understand the state of the code, and are generally willing and > able to help us all more in solving problems that they encounter.) > > But, in general, I agree that it is not a very good idea to use -current > in production without understanding that the support issues are significant. > The FreeBSD group of developers are already overloaded, and simply do not > need the additional problems of supporting -current. > > There is very little more irritating than to be coerced to fix a bug that > isn't ready to be fixed yet. > > -- > John > dyson@freebsd.org > jdyson@nc.com >