From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 17 22:04:16 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3B4A16A41F for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2005 22:04:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7201E43D46 for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2005 22:04:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 536491A3C33; Thu, 17 Nov 2005 14:04:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 0D17B51324; Thu, 17 Nov 2005 17:04:14 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 17:04:14 -0500 From: Kris Kennaway To: Brian Candler Message-ID: <20051117220414.GA98329@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20051116200051.GA35948@xor.obsecurity.org> <20051116223856.8382.qmail@web51009.mail.yahoo.com> <20051116232720.GA5042@xor.obsecurity.org> <20051117090954.GA7207@uk.tiscali.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="4Ckj6UjgE2iN1+kY" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051117090954.GA7207@uk.tiscali.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: Rafael Caesar Lenzi , freebsd-current@freebsd.org, Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: 6.0 Release freeze X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 22:04:17 -0000 --4Ckj6UjgE2iN1+kY Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Nov 17, 2005 at 09:09:54AM +0000, Brian Candler wrote: > On Wed, Nov 16, 2005 at 06:27:21PM -0500, Kris Kennaway wrote: > > > The problem with jdk-1.5, eclipse and openoffice-2 it happened with t= wo > > > other machines ( 1 acer notebook and other is a dell desktop ). > > > It considers that Jdk-1.5 is in alpha stage. > >=20 > > No, userland applications do not cause spontaneous reboots unless > > there is a deeper underlying problem. >=20 > Agreed - although this may be a different problem. >=20 > For the 6.0 machine which is freezing, the short hardware description you > posted is insufficient. You need to post the full output of 'dmesg' so > people here can see exactly what hardware you have. (Preferably from boot= ing > in verbose mode) >=20 > There is also one simple thing which is worth trying: boot with ACPI > disabled. I suffered random reboots with early 5.x on my home machine, wh= ich > went away when ACPI was disabled (although later 5.x series were fine). I= t's > worth a try. If it works, then you can provide help to improve the ACPI > code. Good advice. It's also worth pointing out that many older machines have buggy ACPI implementations. Sometimes this can be fixed with a BIOS update from the vendor. Kris --4Ckj6UjgE2iN1+kY Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFDfP5dWry0BWjoQKURAk3xAKCl3aUBH85sjGIeN79G6kgd51brIACfTMmN l819OHvtslLe7Kf+4X8nIKM= =r7pP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --4Ckj6UjgE2iN1+kY--