From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 23 09:33:14 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AA63106564A for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 09:33:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk) Received: from relay.ptn-ipout02.plus.net (relay.ptn-ipout02.plus.net [212.159.7.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7B268FC1B for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 09:33:13 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AikFAKS0mkxUXeb6/2dsb2JhbACUOY12ccMxhUEE Received: from outmx05.plus.net ([84.93.230.250]) by relay.ptn-ipout02.plus.net with ESMTP; 23 Sep 2010 10:04:23 +0100 Received: from helix.plus.com ([84.92.153.232] helo=curlew.milibyte.co.uk) by outmx05.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1Oyhj5-0007tb-1G for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 10:04:23 +0100 Received: by curlew.milibyte.co.uk with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Oyhj3-0000gK-Ly for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 10:04:21 +0100 From: Mike Clarke To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 10:04:21 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <3368057398-783131724@intranet.com.mx> <4C9B03DB.6000806@netfence.it> In-Reply-To: <4C9B03DB.6000806@netfence.it> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <201009231004.21559.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on curlew.milibyte.co.uk); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Subject: Re: GUI Suggested? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 09:33:14 -0000 On Thursday 23 September 2010, Andrea Venturoli wrote: > After years of KDE3 I tried KDE4 and switched back in half a day. > I found it crawling slowly, with continuous crashes, rendering bugs > and missing features... > > Of course, YMMV. That's very similar to my experience too but I'm getting the feeling that I might have to move over to KDE4 before much longer due to reduced KDE3 support with some of the apps: 1) There's a problem with gnupg > 2.0.9 and Kgpg with KDE 3.5 which prevents kgpg parsing the keyring . Apparently the code is totally different from what is in KDE4 and is scattered over several places so fixing this for KDE3 will (understandably) not be done. I've stuck with gnupg-2.0.9_3 which is still working OK but the recent removal of libassuan-1 causes a problem if I ever need to rebuild gnupg-2.0.9_3 2) kaffeine-1.0_1 now depends on some KDE4 libraries, I suspect other apps will follow in due course with the result that I'll start to see more bloat and potential conflicts. When I first tried KDE4 it was much slower than KDE3, have things improved sufficiently since then for me to think about upgrading? -- Mike Clarke