From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 21 15:26:33 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAC798CD; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 15:26:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.e.sanliturk@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ve0-f170.google.com (mail-ve0-f170.google.com [209.85.128.170]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EF22D14; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 15:26:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ve0-f170.google.com with SMTP id 14so8177584vea.29 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 07:26:26 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=RiHjzrA7hZ4XMUAf1VYJwJ2TcENesR4XJVlGFM6GXaU=; b=WL+JiIvNl1b+na9qMaSx8eX11eTFzebYNtpn7LN5FfLPIzJGoKZx/xnmuRcKbMCKxz 4p+/isFBNoUrx+zkN3vBnIR3dlMzNUFh/jgkjMSZkJDFbpqRpeGZan5HyqkpYdSEgNIh LFIi/NO5Ok0csOQ0zhZI3+MoTTgWsQ81UIZ4e7ziE8FpbQbcuJXUu/A/pQWahoDdOFHP EC2Y71EJhUSKD0IH9DqpoNqo+VKD20wXUm1S333qU9E0qYcdMoEGyXZ0rguZ5UyTCgeR NU2OJm93x11zAeo6AYzuKOdqqlM1qA3/hVP7voOM15jc0vWy8tN1Ys3VXEJ/yRU6JzCy ussA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.52.68.116 with SMTP id v20mr8859853vdt.126.1361460386808; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 07:26:26 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.58.170.36 with HTTP; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 07:26:26 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <51263782.3020205@freebsd.org> References: <51263782.3020205@freebsd.org> Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 07:26:26 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FreeBSD Testing Facility From: Mehmet Erol Sanliturk To: mjacob@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 15:26:33 -0000 On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 7:04 AM, Matthew Jacob wrote: > On 2/21/2013 5:04 AM, Mehmet Erol Sanliturk wrote: > >> Dear All , >> >> During development of FreeBSD , testing is very vital . >> ... >> > > This in general is a good suggestion. Most companies do such automated > testing as a matter of course. > > Note however that this is a volunteer effort. Were you volunteering to set > up such an automated, possibly testzilla driven, facility? It would > certainly help the quality, although as others have noted snapshots are > often likely to be broken. > I am not able to design , implement and manage such a facility ( most important problem is health ) , but as an individual I want to participate to testing as much as I can . In the source tree , there are testing software . There are other testing sites . By cosolidating them as a distributed testing facility will help making FreeBSD much more robust and increase development speed . My idea is that a wide testing applicators may resolve many problems at the beginning . All the people which are trying snapshots or are using current developments will likely participate such a testing community and produce results in a structured and cooperative way . For example , assume a component for boot up to login ( included ) is modified . Instead of preparing a many hundred mega bytes complete snapshot , only a small boot only snapshot may be prepared and presented to testers . After verifying that the boot process is correct , the more complete snapshots may be prepared . In that way , time and money will not be wasted by including unnecessary parts . Please , consider each component in that way . At present , many tools are already present in the ports tree . Thank you very much . Mehmet Erol Sanliturk