From owner-freebsd-chat Mon Dec 10 13:16:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mcqueen.wolfsburg.de (pns.wobline.de [212.68.68.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAF0937B405 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 13:16:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from colt.ncptiddische.net (ppp-141.wobline.de [212.68.69.149]) by mcqueen.wolfsburg.de (8.11.3/8.11.3/tw-20010821) with ESMTP id fBALGEA28596; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 22:16:14 +0100 Received: from tisys.org (jodie.ncptiddische.net [192.168.0.2]) by colt.ncptiddische.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fBALHP002071; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 22:17:25 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from nils@tisys.org) Received: (from nils@localhost) by tisys.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fBALGdW02687; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 22:16:39 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from nils) Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 22:16:39 +0100 From: Nils Holland To: "Gary W. Swearingen" Cc: Konstantinos Konstantinidis , freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Best service on earth! Message-ID: <20011210221639.A2587@tisys.org> Mail-Followup-To: "Gary W. Swearingen" , Konstantinos Konstantinidis , freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20011210123010.A259@tisys.org> <3C14A495.841A203D@duth.gr> <01121013063303.00345@stinky.akitanet.co.uk> <20011210173831.A1975@tisys.org> <3C14EE71.91ECF654@duth.gr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from swear@blarg.net on Mon, Dec 10, 2001 at 10:58:36AM -0800 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD jodie.ncptiddische.net 4.4-STABLE FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE X-Machine-Uptime: 9:59PM up 5:30, 2 users, load averages: 0.26, 0.24, 0.25 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Dec 10, 2001 at 10:58:36AM -0800, Gary W. Swearingen stood up and spoke: > Konstantinos Konstantinidis writes: > > I think I'm just stating facts and not saying how badly or not-so-badly > I view these dishonest dealings. Few people are guiltless and for many > mail order pricing errors, correcting the problem would cost the seller > more than the error, and costs the buyer at least his time, etc, etc, > so justifications are often easy to make. Well, it is probably dishonest, but who cares? In my case, I don't even know who got "damaged" by what I did. It could be that the retailer from whom I bought the product mislabeled it and sold it at a price lower than the price for which he bought it. It could, however, also be that the retailer got the drive from a big reseller, and the reseller made the mistake. In that case, the retailer bought the price for a smaller drive and thought they had / sent that smaller drive. As a last point, the folks at Western Digital could just have messed the who thing up when packaging the units. I'm only dishonest because I'm the one who noticed what's up ;-) Seriously: If the folks who sold me the dive would come along and request it back, they'd surely get it back. I don't think, however, that anyone has actually noticed what's up and in the end, no damage has been done. The fact that I recently purchased items for 3000 DM (about $1500) from the same retailer doesn't remedy what I have done, but it makes me feel a little better about it. Now that we're at it: Imagine I ordered an item for $50 and would pay by transferring the money from my banking account to the retailer's account (fairly common payment method in Germany). Now, imagine I accidentally transfer $70 instead of the $50 to the reseller. Well, I don't think they would contact me and tell me about the issue - they'd probably give me back my money if I ask them about it, but otherwise, probably not. Definately, there are much worse things one can do. Remember: It's 60 GB for the price of 20! ;-) Greetings Nils (I will prepare a "Terms Of Service" statement which I will include with all the orders I place. It will contain a statement like: "All goods delievered to me, no matter if by mistake or by intention, shall become my property."...) -- Nils Holland Ti Systems - FreeBSD in Tiddische, Germany http://www.tisys.org * nils@tisys.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message