From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 24 09:30:28 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45A8716A4B3 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 09:30:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from web10106.mail.yahoo.com (web10106.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.130.56]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 99B9343FB1 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 09:30:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from twigles@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20030924163027.60899.qmail@web10106.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [68.5.49.41] by web10106.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 09:30:27 PDT Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 09:30:27 -0700 (PDT) From: twig les To: Randi Harper , Mike Hoskins In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD as a desktop OS was Re: Sorry X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 16:30:28 -0000 Neener neener? Hahaha. I think the point is that RH is shooting to be a desktop for ppl who can't recompile a kernel, will never know how to recompile a kernel and don't ever want to know what a kernel is. The key is abstraction...*heavy* abstraction. I point again to Mac. To get FreeBSD on my laptop I had to recompile the kernel for my NIC, and it took me awhile to figure out that when I enabled sound (another kernel rebuild) I had to tell it in the kernel to use a specific IRQ bc it booted my NIC out of its IRQ. This isn't whining, aside from some frustration I enjoyed learning the OS better, but my dad will *never* do that. Neither will my wife, sister, the lady in HR, the CFO, etc. To be honest I'm not sure what conclusion to draw from my own line of reasoning. I don't like the idea of core FBSD members working on making a GUI for everything under the sun, but without a team doing constant and professional coding I don't see what chance we have of surplanting M$ and stopping my mailbox from filling up with virii. --- Randi Harper wrote: > > On Thursday, September 18, 2003, at 06:35 PM, Mike Hoskins > wrote: > > > On Wed, 17 Sep 2003, Johnson David wrote: > >>> So if we combine X with FreeBSD we've got a desktop OS :) > >> I'm using FreeBSD + XFree86 + KDE as my primary desktop at > work and at > >> home. But no one believes me. Even when they see me calmly > working at > >> my desk they don't believe me. > > > > let me guess -- they have pointy hair too. ;) > > > > seriously... for anyone that's doubtful (surely no one > here), FreeBSD > > makes a great desktop OS. more apps and utils are available > every day, > > emulation helps a lot, and there are more window managers in > the ports > > collection than you can shake a stick at! > > > Anyone that says FreeBSD doesn't make a good desktop doesn't > know what > they are talking about, in my opinion. It may take a little > more work > than redhat, but that's life. When I got my very first laptop, > I wanted > to install FreeBSD on it, and a very annoying person told me > "That'll > never happen, FreeBSD developers aren't concerned about laptop > support. > FreeBSD is for servers." How he knows what the developers are > > 'concerned about', I'm still not certain. FreeBSD worked > fabulously on > my laptop. > > neener neener. > > > Randi Harper > > sektie@freebsdgirl.com > http://freebsdgirl.com > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-advocacy-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" ===== ----------------------------------------------------------- Get a taste of Religion ... eat a priest! ----------------------------------------------------------- __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com