From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 6 4:35:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (law2-f93.hotmail.com [216.32.181.93]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDDC137B405 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2001 04:35:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 6 Sep 2001 04:35:32 -0700 Received: from 24.159.98.101 by lw2fd.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 06 Sep 2001 11:35:31 GMT X-Originating-IP: [24.159.98.101] From: "Kenneth Mays" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD 4.4RC4: Real World Guerilla Testing Guideline? Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 07:35:31 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Sep 2001 11:35:32.0154 (UTC) FILETIME=[095D19A0:01C136C8] Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I thought it was 5-7 days for a beta test cycle. I've usually seen a 5-7 day modeling strategy for testing beta apps. Most people may have family issues, vacations, or other personal things to attend to so during the week so the weekend span is usually good. Just checked at Sept. 6, 2001 (Thu) - 07:13 AM (EST) and didn't see 4.4RC4 on ftp.freebsd.org. I figure I can downloaded the ISO in 2-3 hours, take an hour to burn the CD, and 1-2 hours putting it on a test machine. Give it a relaxing 8 hours just to get everything downloaded and prepped in most situations and a good connection to a FTP site. If I had three solid days to play with the product, even using formal testing procedures, it would take a day to write up what I found in a reasonable manner (remember to retest those bugs). So in this manner I spent a least 4-5 days to adequately test the product, download it and deal with the download issues (MD5/CRC anyone?), and write down what I found and retest the errors I may have found. Then, I expect a reasonable amount of time for the core developers and techical support to look over my reports and decide to implement a solution or answer to my feedback. I give that a few hours with quality feedback to me. This all should happen within the RC1->RC3 stages (but things do happen with new apps being created). Dedicated people can probably have the product downloaded and tested within two solid days with the third day to retest situations and provide feedback. So, if RC4 got released by Friday then I could expect to see a very good gold release by Sep 14, 2001 (Fri). May the budget be with you... Ken _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message