From owner-freebsd-sparc Wed Dec 9 17:27:43 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA29243 for freebsd-sparc-outgoing; Wed, 9 Dec 1998 17:27:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from bright.fx.genx.net (bright.fx.genx.net [206.64.4.154]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA29227 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 1998 17:27:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bright@hotjobs.com) Received: from localhost (bright@localhost) by bright.fx.genx.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA44355; Wed, 9 Dec 1998 20:31:10 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bright@hotjobs.com) X-Authentication-Warning: bright.fx.genx.net: bright owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 20:31:10 -0500 (EST) From: Alfred Perlstein X-Sender: bright@bright.fx.genx.net To: Greg Lehey cc: John Birrell , freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Read this... In-Reply-To: <19981210110516.V12688@freebie.lemis.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 10 Dec 1998, Greg Lehey wrote: > On Thursday, 10 December 1998 at 7:47:48 +1100, John Birrell wrote: > > Alfred Perlstein wrote: > >> Will someone with more courage and experiance than I please speak up about > >> this, perhaps contact sun? > > > > Please _don't_ ask Sun for anything until you have a working port on > > limited hardware. I doubt that anyone following this list would be > > prepared to spend $$$ based on what has been said so far. Those people > > who have access to Sun machines should be able to do a port with neither > > financial nor moral support from Sun. If you want this sort of support, > > you have to earn it. > > I suppose I should point you people to > http://www.lemis.com/x/sunworld-bsd.html, which is a draft of an > article I've submitted to SunWorld. This is for review only in the > present form; please don't distribute it, but I'd be interested in > comments. > > One thing in particular occurred to me in this context: why does Sun > want Linux or *BSD? On the whole, Solaris this week> is a pretty good operating system, and neither Linux nor > *BSD can equal it. What advantage would I have running FreeBSD on my > UltraSparc? Or should we be doing what NetBSD and OpenBSD are already > doing and running it on older (32 bit) Sparc hardware? This is my reasoning why I want a sparc port: Solaris (even with source license) is basically closed source. It's being piecemealed down into as small pieces as possible in order to charge for each individual component. FreeBSD has very neat features NQNFS with leases is great, softupdates _DESTROYS_ solaris UFS without a question. Is it just me, or do most of the people on this list dislike SYSV-like setups? please excuse the mini sarcasm, but we could ditch FreeBSD all together and run SCO or SolX86 no? :) -Alfred > > Greg > -- > See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers > finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message