From owner-freebsd-chat Wed Dec 20 2:29: 2 2000 From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 20 02:29:01 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mail.thpoon.com (cr103675-a.bloor1.on.wave.home.com [24.42.106.79]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 23C4137B400 for ; Wed, 20 Dec 2000 02:29:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 13294 invoked from network); 20 Dec 2000 10:28:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO tea.thpoon.com) (mail@192.168.1.2) by cr103675-a.bloor1.on.wave.home.com with SMTP; 20 Dec 2000 10:28:59 -0000 Received: from antipode by tea.thpoon.com with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 148gUU-0001Nd-00; Wed, 20 Dec 2000 05:28:58 -0500 To: dan@langille.org Cc: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: No cable modems?? References: <20001220003436.A345@cae88-102-101.sc.rr.com> <200012200859.VAA32378@ducky.nz.freebsd.org> From: Arcady Genkin X-Face: 0=A/O5-+sE[Tf%X>rYr?Y5LD4,:^'jaJ!4jC&UR*ZrrK2>^`g22Qeb]!:d;}2YJ|Hq"LHdF OX`jWX|AT-WVFQ(TPhFVak)0nt$aEdlOq=1~D,:\z5QlVOrZ2(H,mKg=Xr|'VlHA="r Organization: thpoon.com Mail-Copies-To: never Date: 20 Dec 2000 05:28:58 -0500 In-Reply-To: <200012200859.VAA32378@ducky.nz.freebsd.org> Message-ID: <87itofl72t.fsf@tea.thpoon.com> Lines: 25 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Channel Islands) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org "Dan Langille" writes: > I hope this doesn't spread. I have an ADSL connection and I send mail > directly from my mailserver. I don't want to send my mailing list server > output through my ISP. Nor should I. Part of the idea of handling my > own mail was both the independence and the learning experience. Yes, I would second that. My ISP's (Rogers) mail servers are down quite often, and there have been incidents with mail lost at all. I'm using my FreeBSD box on a cable modem as my own incoming and outgoing mail gateway, and have no intention of changing this. I think that the human tendency to over-generalize dangerously spreads into computer networks' configuration. Only because some admins _can_ play gods doesn't mean that it's a right (or even fair) thing to do. This might be a sentiment, but I don't want to be called a spammer with no grounds to it. p.s. I understand that a person is free to do whatever the heck he wants to his own incoming mail server's configuration. But I'm concerned with a tendency. I like having my own mail gateway (and I make sure it does not allow relaying). -- Arcady Genkin Don't read everything you believe. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message