From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 14 13:11:47 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE97B16A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 13:11:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net (sccrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.202.55]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA4CB43F93 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 13:11:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from underway@comcast.net) Received: from localhost.localdomain (12-230-74-101.client.attbi.com[12.230.74.101]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with ESMTP id <2003111421114501100r1eube>; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:11:45 +0000 Received: from localhost.localdomain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAEL9oTG043548; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 13:09:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from underway@comcast.net) Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id hAEL9jCe043547; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 13:09:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from underway@comcast.net) To: "abowhill" References: <20031114044623.C119838124@mail.blarg.net> From: underway@comcast.net (Gary W. Swearingen) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 13:09:45 -0800 In-Reply-To: <20031114044623.C119838124@mail.blarg.net> (abowhill@blarg.net's message of "Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:47:01 -0800") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.4 (Portable Code, berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: C/C++ X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:11:47 -0000 "abowhill" writes: > I love FreeBSD, I have followed it for years. But frankly, it's > grown a bit stale, from a spectator's viewpoint. The more I > learn about progamming the less I seem to respect the crufty > old Unix traditions that nobody wants to break. > > Within the past couple of years, I have returned to school > and am finishing prereq's to get into a CS program at the > University of Washington. You'll find plenty of people that want to break UNIX traditions while you're studying there in the Paul Allen Center, the large new CS building mostly funded by him and the Gates and MSFT. You'll probably even see many of them write "Unix" instead of the traditional "UNIX". http://students.washington.edu/linuxug/meetings.html still has an announcement for a 23 May 2002 Linux User Group meeting, so if you still have any desire to rub shoulders with non-MSFT folk, I suggest that you check out http://www.seabug.org and http://www.gslug.org . (I know that the UW does use UNIX (one sys admin frequents comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc), but I suspect that it's mostly down in the huge medical school facilities where reliability is still respected by some.)