From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 31 00:24:41 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9253B16A46E for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2007 00:24:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from security@jim-liesl.org) Received: from qsmtp3.mc.surewest.net (qsmtp.mc.surewest.net [66.60.130.145]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 732F413C4BD for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2007 00:24:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from security@jim-liesl.org) Received: (qmail 28770 invoked from network); 30 Oct 2007 16:57:55 -0700 Received: by simscan 1.1.0 ppid: 28747, pid: 28748, t: 6.5021s scanners: regex: 1.1.0 attach: 1.1.0 clamav: 0.90.1/m:42 spam: 3.1.7-deb X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7-deb (2006-10-05) on qsmtp3.surewest.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00, FORGED_RCVD_HELO, HTML_30_40, HTML_MESSAGE, MIME_HTML_ONLY autolearn=ham version=3.1.7-deb Received: from unknown (HELO daemon.jim-liesl.org) (66.60.173.44) by qsmtp3 with SMTP; 30 Oct 2007 16:57:49 -0700 Received: from daemon.jim-liesl.org (localhost.static.surewest.net [127.0.0.1]) by daemon.jim-liesl.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 124FB5DBC; Tue, 30 Oct 2007 16:57:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (daemon.static.surewest.net [192.168.1.15]) by daemon.jim-liesl.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBCEB5DB9; Tue, 30 Oct 2007 16:57:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4727C4FC.8060000@jim-liesl.org> Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 16:57:48 -0700 From: security User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) To: Bruce Burden References: <7dc35e670710291625l43902c92o5b364f84bf769811@mail.gmail.com> <20071030153627.GA1005@tigerfish2.my.domain> In-Reply-To: <20071030153627.GA1005@tigerfish2.my.domain> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Upgrading FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 00:24:41 -0000 Bruce Burden wrote: On Mon, Oct 29, 2007 at 04:25:18PM -0700, Jason Slack wrote: I want to try version 7 as it has items of interest to me, but I am not one to continually wipe and reload my machine, can you upgrade from the test releases of 7 available now to the final release when ready? Or do you have to wipe? From ports, you install "cvsup" and you can keep your ports and OS source up to date. The last time a full install was preferred was going from the 5.x release to 6.x, I believe, due to differences in GCC 3.x and GCC 4.x. So, it rarely happens. Bruce Actually there was a 5.5-6.x upgrade path. I took it. The last re-install jump was 4->5 since the ODS changed with UFS2. Even there, you could stay with the old format, but you didn't get things like disk snapshots. Major version upgrades have typically been more time consuming than painful depending on the features you used (although early versions of 5.x had a higher pain ratio). Minor version point releases are usually even less so. 6.x has been relatively pain free for me, and reputedly 7.x is even smoother. jim