From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Apr 4 23:24:54 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (GndRsh.dnsmgr.net [198.145.92.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BC3D37B93E for ; Tue, 4 Apr 2000 23:24:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net) Received: (from freebsd@localhost) by gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA33558; Tue, 4 Apr 2000 23:24:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd) From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <200004050624.XAA33558@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> Subject: Re: FreeBSD/Opensource is not free In-Reply-To: from "Forrest W. Christian" at "Apr 4, 2000 07:45:06 pm" To: forrestc@iMach.com (Forrest W. Christian) Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 23:24:46 -0700 (PDT) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG BRAVO!!! Only one small nit... $2.7M/year, starting in 1993 puts it at about a $18.9M price tag. Ohhh.. and don't tell me we didn't have 150 committers back then, as the 10 to 20 of us where putting in way more than 1 hour/day, some where doing more than 40 hrs/week for the first year or two. Some place some where I have the outline for a paper titled ``Free Software, the Real Cost and Who has Payed Them''. Beyond the commiters there was money spent by UCB and a dozen other colleges, much of which came from federal funding via grants and darpa contracts. Another interesting stat to toss out is the average line of code costs something like $50.00 over it's lifetime including maintanance and recoding, if we stayed constant at 6.6M lines it would have a cost/value of $330M!!! > Since I probably am about to step in a puddle of gasoline with what I am > about to say, I'd just like to preface this with this isn't meant as an > attack on anyone, but instead as some food for thought. I'm not > particularly good with saying things in a tactful manner, and I'd rather > not muddy what I'm trying to say by "softening" it. > > It seems that a growing number of posters to the list seem to not > understand that FreeBSD and other OpenSource projects have a real cost > which every user should help to bear. .... > > Now think about this: The "committers" have donated 2.7 million dollars > of labor to FreeBSD, what have you done? $2.7M in just the last year... :-) Ohh.. and the 1 hour/day thing would barely allow a committer the time to read the mandatory -commit mail in order to be a committer :-) Another words each of those 150 people is burning about $18,250/year of his/her own time just reading email. -- Rod Grimes - KD7CAX @ CN85sl - (RWG25) rgrimes@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message