From owner-freebsd-testing@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 21 06:51:16 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-testing@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2A5FD7C1; Thu, 21 May 2015 06:51:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A49B1849; Thu, 21 May 2015 06:51:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from AlfredMacbookAir.local (c-76-21-10-192.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [76.21.10.192]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 47138341F868; Wed, 20 May 2015 23:51:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <555D8061.7060309@freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 20 May 2015 23:51:13 -0700 From: Alfred Perlstein Organization: FreeBSD User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Craig Rodrigues , "freebsd-testing@freebsd.org" CC: "jenkins-admin@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Create freebsd-testing-results@ list for Jenkins results? References: <56800B8F-E49D-4B8E-B975-EB16299C0028@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-testing@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Testing on FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 May 2015 06:51:16 -0000 Craig, Those points make a lot of sense. Is there a way that jenkins can set a HEADER so that it's easily filtered by people? I assume that people know how to use procmail or their MUA's filtering tools. -Alfred On 5/20/15 11:32 PM, Craig Rodrigues wrote: > Hi, > > Yes, I am opposed to this. > > The minute you push these email notifications to a separate list, > then the whole utility of Jenkins goes down, because most people won't > be subscribe to the list. > > The whole point of running a CI system like Jenkins is to unfortunately be > a bit annoying > and "in your face". FreeBSD doesn't have a QA department to triage > failures and notify > developers, so sending e-mails to > targeted lists is important. As it is, FreeBSD people don't subscribe to > all the same lists, so no matter what, > you can't make everyone happy. > > At this link: > https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/current-stable.html > > it mentions that bulletins about the state of the FreeBSD-CURRENT branch > go to the freebsd-current@ list. So that's why it is OK for e-mail > notifications > from the old Tinderbox or Jenkins to go to that list. > > I have received e-mails privately thanking me for setting this stuff up. > Some folks (who are not FreeBSD committers) monitor lists like > freebsd-current@, > and when they see Jenkins failure e-mails > on the list, that gives them a clue that they should hold off on updating > the tree. > > So freebsd-current@ is used to notifiy committers *and* non-committers > about the > state of the branch. > > jenkins is already configured to send e-mails to several lists, such as > freebsd-current, freebsd-stable, freebsd-doc, freebsd-i386, depending on > the build job, > so we don't send every e-mail to freebsd-current for all the builds that we > do. > > So Jenkins is doing its job, even if it annoys some people and makes some > people > like Steve Kargl unhappy. > > What we can consider doing is reducing the number of lines in the e-mall > notification, > to prevent very large e-mails from being sent to the list. There may be > tunables > in Jenkins that we can look at for this. That is worth exploring. > > No matter what, you can't make everyone happy with build break e-mails. > > However, pushing them off to the side is not the direction we should be > going in. > > -- > Craig > > > On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 10:46 PM, Garrett Cooper > wrote: > >> Hi all, >> As some know who are subscribed to freebsd-current, the list gets >> spammed a lot with test results (pass/fail transitions mostly) for the >> Build_Image_and_Run_Tests_in_Bhyve_HEAD job. I was wondering if anyone >> would be opposed to creating another list to capture the results, e.g. >> freebsd-testing-results@FreeBSD.org, and if so, would you subscribe to >> the list? >> Thanks! >> -NGie >> > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-testing@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-testing > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-testing-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >