From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 8 15:33:36 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ED7216A4CE for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2004 15:33:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dyer.circlesquared.com (host217-45-219-83.in-addr.btopenworld.com [217.45.219.83]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D85FD43D1D for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2004 15:33:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from peter@circlesquared.com) Received: from circlesquared.com (localhost.petanna.net [127.0.0.1]) i58FaLN5048919; Tue, 8 Jun 2004 16:36:24 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from peter@circlesquared.com) Message-ID: <40C5DCF5.1010800@circlesquared.com> Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2004 16:36:21 +0100 From: Peter Risdon User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7b) Gecko/20040327 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter Ulrich Kruppa References: <40C5BCAC.6090401@circlesquared.com> <20040608171228.F64702@pukruppa.net> In-Reply-To: <20040608171228.F64702@pukruppa.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: FreeBSD Question List Subject: Re: Wisdom of automating upgrades X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2004 15:33:36 -0000 Peter Ulrich Kruppa wrote: > On Tue, 8 Jun 2004, Peter Risdon wrote: > >> The main cost of having computers for most companies lies not in >> software or hardware, but in support. I have been pondering the >> wisdom of automating the upgrade process, so that sources are >> cvsup'ed nightly and make buildworld buildkernel etc and portupgrade >> happen overnight maybe once a week or month - and perhaps every day a >> security fix is announced. >> [...] >> I'd be grateful for any input on this. I can picture waking up to >> find that every machine I administrate is simultaneously *#!$%ed one >> morning. > > This would be the necessary result of complete automatization, > wouldn't it? That's the nub - is it the inevitable outcome? > Did you think about remote access? All administrative tasks on a > FreeBSD system can be done via ssh from a text console. Thus you > wouldn't have to be present personally, but keep full control of things. Yes, that's what I normally do. Regards, Peter.