From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 18 18:38:09 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9238B16A4DE for ; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 18:38:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from uspoerlein@gmail.com) Received: from nz-out-0102.google.com (nz-out-0102.google.com [64.233.162.192]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22C7243DDD for ; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 18:37:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from uspoerlein@gmail.com) Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id x3so589724nzd for ; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 11:37:14 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to; b=MzAP9NqRqcRtUeiP72n4mIXjMDhA7MWJEByuq0kO1119VUhLuH0U++aBpry6jTjX/Ydrm3xLaSKJwz7pYLHdU9+1KevBYrPY6y8NBir7uxTe+KsvZSZlF0a7xxRVinSGvgAxo1pRdHY9V+yyQqpcDRo3DPbcr0QTcGQudyoTddM= Received: by 10.65.154.10 with SMTP id g10mr4140902qbo; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 11:37:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from roadrunner.q.local ( [217.185.119.164]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id p4sm2227586qba.2006.08.18.11.37.09; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 11:37:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from roadrunner.q.local (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by roadrunner.q.local (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k7IIb59M001739; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 20:37:05 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from uspoerlein@gmail.com) Received: (from q@localhost) by roadrunner.q.local (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id k7HJ1rLL002368; Thu, 17 Aug 2006 21:01:53 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from uspoerlein@gmail.com) Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 21:01:38 +0200 From: Ulrich Spoerlein To: Pawel Jakub Dawidek Message-ID: <20060817190138.GB1091@roadrunner.aventurien.local> Mail-Followup-To: Pawel Jakub Dawidek , Craig Boston , freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-geom@FreeBSD.org References: <20060808195202.GA1564@garage.freebsd.pl> <20060810184702.GA8567@nowhere> <20060810192841.GA1345@garage.freebsd.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060810192841.GA1345@garage.freebsd.pl> Cc: freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.org, Craig Boston , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-geom@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: GJournal (hopefully) final patches. X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 18:38:09 -0000 Pawel Jakub Dawidek wrote: > On Thu, Aug 10, 2006 at 01:47:23PM -0500, Craig Boston wrote: > I prefer to put gjournal on the top, because it gives consistency to > layers below it. For example I can use geli with bigger sector size > (sector size greater than disk sector size in encryption-only-mode can > be unreliable on power failures, which is not the case when gjournal is > above geli), I can turn off synchronization of gmirror/graid3 after a > power failure, etc. I have been bitten by the bigger sector size + kernel crash, and it is not funny. Could you *please* add a note to the geli and/or gjournal manpages describing the various possibilities and their advantages/drawbacks? Thanks. Ulrich Spoerlein -- A: Yes. >Q: Are you sure? > >A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. > >>Q: Why is top posting frowned upon?