From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 18 15:26:15 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA21C993 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 15:26:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from georgreilinger@yahoo.de) Received: from nm6-vm1.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com (nm6-vm1.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com [77.238.189.220]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5C8CF99 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 15:26:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [212.82.105.247] by nm6.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Jan 2013 15:26:13 -0000 Received: from [212.82.108.240] by tm19.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Jan 2013 15:26:13 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1005.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Jan 2013 15:26:13 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-5 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 209428.15461.bm@omp1005.mail.ird.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 52571 invoked by uid 60001); 18 Jan 2013 15:26:13 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.de; s=s1024; t=1358522773; bh=E2QmSaEumC6fUQaAEmp0OasX4iZ3EME/cK7ZRCphegk=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=cuUMwvtj6KcJ94SUeLFvRLI8tl7Y5uadOYH4EfkwkVRJqSnwbTv/ruE8Vnx5t2Eq9n/LUPBFFuMdOiPvs1Ara1C4ss0SBOuEtwkxplC8RxrwyKP7YjRNBrBKVIOFM+gG4K1D06fF187hFpMjUJxn6zr/B/3XkohAz/DWTmiFao8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.de; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=uaynNQBBNTuF6Yi2IBLtp/h+z0CYmCcUWFY2HzonPBQziWPz2HZK/cIy63ednXhOTyEoJSJ77XQdKMAf4spRz2cE+aAzatfHyXivrLHs/vAhk7yVyfweaEf7TN7x7cjxqJw4SHV6pY1WlRYeZ5GI54IZ5MHmgDL7n+KhxYsxAHo=; X-YMail-OSG: sFWzEhwVM1lkSnCSAv3sEBSa5VR.v3P5Ve.I9i0aUQdKfsf Bl8R61FwRLKLqydlajGCkudFnPrnAjBIv8zRPrG4abl2BZrG6oFZ.uwcUb6I trPixPZOUOe2AMK5_EisASNrds4S2g9a7uSAsPIbMZzh5N7nrOaPJkRtLobz GQtJGWmKJTX2PlxUa4w1mJ5aq9ruDcVfGQxeLPok4dYZWNM8kQEa8ZhpGIgi YfD7nbNCWjJ0BNkMgP8jAbFpirL7LAvBFcA825v_8ChSbDGxwNYXaoj4ZHmO cdtzzre2Uiu3XtunbP8j0Reu9Nwe2IVPEjzho4_AdWvALYgLz5SSc_CbLJZx 59X5EHn1Wl8wsyz2QymejvgEkkghKtaYqOB7AYUFPx2SLFOuZ8_.HjjZt5T4 _mzcbLhH6qB5tahBo9RTAdvSDUfsE8XcJ9kK5ScOp9_mV_acRaF.rMZwDoUQ GVak- Received: from [217.251.139.44] by web133202.mail.ir2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 15:26:12 GMT X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 001.001, LS0gRXhjdXNlIG1lLi4uIHlvdSdyZSBqb2tpbmcsIHJpZ2h0PyBJIGFzc3VtZSB5b3UgaGF2ZSBhIHBsZW50eWNvcmUKLS0gcHJvY2Vzc29yIHdpdGggR2lncyBvZiBSQU0sIGFuZCBhbHJlYWR5IHR3byBzaGVsbHMgc2hvdyBhIHByb2JsZW0_Ci0tIFRoYXQgc291bmRzIHRvdGFsbHkgd3JvbmcuCgpJcyB0aGF0IHNhcmNhc20gb3IgaXJvbnk_CgoKCgpfX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fXwogVm9uOiBQb2x5dHJvcG9uIDxmcmVlYnNkQGVkdmF4LmRlPgpBbjogR2VvcmcgUmVpbGluZ2VyIDwBMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.130.494 References: <1358472303.40523.YahooMailNeo@web133203.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> <20130118052438.ddc5b4dd.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-ID: <1358522772.46124.YahooMailNeo@web133202.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 15:26:12 +0000 (GMT) From: Georg Reilinger Subject: Re: FreeBSD 8.2 with pre-built KDE 3.5 package from FreeBSD 7.1 DVD To: Polytropon In-Reply-To: <20130118052438.ddc5b4dd.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Georg Reilinger List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 15:26:15 -0000 -- Excuse me... you're joking, right? I assume you have a plentycore=0A-- p= rocessor with Gigs of RAM, and already two shells show a problem?=0A-- That= sounds totally wrong.=0A=0AIs that sarcasm or irony?=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A_______= _________________________=0A Von: Polytropon =0AAn: Georg= Reilinger =0ACC: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org"= =0AGesendet: 5:24 Freitag, 18.Januar 2013= =0ABetreff: Re: FreeBSD 8.2 with pre-built KDE 3.5 package from FreeBSD 7.1= DVD=0A =0AOn Fri, 18 Jan 2013 01:25:03 +0000 (GMT), Georg Reilinger wrote:= =0A> As far as I know, FreeBSD has completely dropped support for KDE 3.5. = =0A=0AAs for other desktop environments, yes.=0A=0A=0A=0A> Whether it's the= ports, or the pkg_add precompiled binaries. Am I right in =0A> assuming th= is?=0A=0AI think KDE 3 is still in ports, but will be scheduled for removal= ,=0Aas KDE 4 is the place where development takes place, and there seems=0A= to be no active development on KDE 3 that can be built (!) on FreeBSD=0Adue= to lack of contribution.=0A=0A=0A=0A> I am currently running a live versio= n of FreeBSD 8.2 with KDE 4.8.=0A=0AMay I ask which live system this is?=0A= =0A=0A=0A> The thing =0A> here is, that KDE 4 is simply too heavy for my sy= stem. For example: it is =0A> impossible for me to have two open shells at = the same time. Once I exit a =0A> given shell, I can't open another one due= to a lack of resources, even after having =0A> turned off all the extra st= uff - plasma desktop, nepomuk...=0A=0AExcuse me... you're joking, right? I = assume you have a plentycore=0Aprocessor with Gigs of RAM, and already two = shells show a problem?=0AThat sounds totally wrong.=0A=0AWhen you play a mu= sic file and move the window, do you get skipping=0Aaudio, too?=0A=0AJust s= cary...=0A=0A=0A=0A> As a consequence, I can see myself do two possible thi= ngs, to have a system =0A> running with KDE 3.5 once again:=0A> =0A> 1. Go = back to an older release of FreeBSD and install KDE 3.5 from the =0A> preco= mpiled binaries that are on the DVD donwload version.=0A> Judging by the re= lease announcements, this should be 7.1.=0A=0AYes, this will work. But note= that you are running an OS that=0Ahas been gone out of support, so you pro= bably won't be able=0Ato install "newer" software using ports or packages. = However,=0Ayou can use the system "as is", and even use ports as long =0Aas= the distfiles are still kept available online.=0A=0A=0A=0A> 2. To be hones= t, I am quite happy with 8.2 and I would like to keep it for =0A> some time= to come. In other words, is there a way to keep 8.2 and still =0A> have KD= E 3.5 along with it? For example has anyone ever tried to =0A> install a 7.= 1 pre-built package (KDE 3.5 in this case) on an 8.2 system? =0A> Is that b= e possible?=0A=0AThat should be possible if you install the required compat= 7x=0Aport on the system. Keep an eye on dependencies and make sure=0Ayou wo= n't be shooting your feet. A good start would be to=0Ainstall the KDE stuff= on a "clean" system (right after compat7x)=0Aso there won't be much confus= ion.=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A-- =0APolytropon=0AMagdeburg, Germany=0AHappy FreeBSD us= er since 4.0=0AAndra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...=0A_____________________________= __________________=0Afreebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list=0Ahttp://li= sts.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions=0ATo unsubscribe, send a= ny mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 18 15:37:57 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE8831AE for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 15:37:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@alice-dsl.net) Received: from smtp-out04.alice-dsl.net (smtp-out04.alice-dsl.net [88.44.63.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 508AFD2 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 15:37:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from out.alice-dsl.de ([192.168.125.61]) by smtp-out04.alice-dsl.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 18 Jan 2013 16:37:55 +0100 Received: from freebsd ([92.224.209.164]) by out.alice-dsl.de with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 18 Jan 2013 16:37:43 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: "FreeBSD quest" Subject: Re: Dependencies after port tree update References: <20130118055051.3dd2a12a.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 16:37:43 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Ralf Mardorf" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20130118055051.3dd2a12a.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Opera Mail/11.61 (FreeBSD) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Jan 2013 15:37:43.0719 (UTC) FILETIME=[C1FBF370:01CDF591] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 15:37:57 -0000 On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 05:50:51 +0100, Polytropon wrote: > "man portmaster" root@freebsd:/root # portmaster --list-origins > ~/installed-port-list root@freebsd:/root # portsnap fetch update root@freebsd:/root # portmaster -ty --clean-distfiles root@freebsd:/root # portmaster --check-port-dbdir delete? always y root@freebsd:/root # portmaster -Faf root@freebsd:/root # pkg_delete -a root@freebsd:/root # rm -rf /usr/local/lib/compat/pkg No backup of files in /usr/local, such as configuration files in /usr/local/etc needed. Do the following directories have to be "more" empty? root@freebsd:/root # ls -hAl /usr/local/bin total 0 root@freebsd:/root # ls -hAl /usr/local/sbin total 0 root@freebsd:/root # ls -hAl /usr/local/lib total 12 drwxr-xr-x 4 root wheel 512B Jan 18 16:17 X11 -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 2.2k Jan 14 19:30 charset.alias drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 3.0k Jan 18 16:19 compat drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 1.0k Jan 18 16:10 dssi root@freebsd:/root # ls -hAl /usr/local/lib/dssi total 0 root@freebsd:/root # ls -hAl /usr/local/lib/compat total 0 root@freebsd:/root # ls -hAl /usr/local/lib/X11 total 4 drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512B Jan 18 16:14 app-defaults drwxr-xr-x 4 root wheel 512B Jan 18 16:14 fonts root@freebsd:/root # ls -hAl /var/db/pkg total 9424 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 9.2M Dec 23 22:42 pkgdb.db root@freebsd:/root # cd /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/portmaster && make deinstall install clean root@freebsd:/usr/ports/ports-mgmt/portmaster # portmaster `cat ~/installed-port-list` I wonder how to set a variable to automatically "answer" ok. In this case it might be interesting to check all configurations. If I finished this step, will then automatically everything be recompiled and reinstalled? Regards, Ralf -- FreeBSD 9.1-RELEASE amd64