From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 11 15:11:43 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78B671065672 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 15:11:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@pcbsd.org) Received: from mail.iXsystems.com (newknight.ixsystems.com [206.40.55.70]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A4B28FC0A for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 15:11:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.iXsystems.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6DAE1F27 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 08:11:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.iXsystems.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.ixsystems.com [127.0.0.1]) (maiad, port 10024) with ESMTP id 93398-04 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 08:11:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.126] (75-130-56-30.static.kgpt.tn.charter.com [75.130.56.30]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.iXsystems.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 39E911F25 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 08:11:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4FD60AA1.3090403@pcbsd.org> Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 11:11:29 -0400 From: Kris Moore User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120506 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org References: <20120610140407.62ad9de8.miwi@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5pre Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: What still requires HAL? X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 15:11:43 -0000 On 06/10/2012 08:45, Warren Block wrote: > On Sun, 10 Jun 2012, Martin Wilke wrote: > >> On Sat, 9 Jun 2012 19:01:08 -0600 (MDT) >> Warren Block wrote: >> >>> Does Gnome still require HAL? Does KDE? xfce does not. Are we >>> approaching a point at which the xorg-server port option for HAL can >>> be set to default to off? >> >> >> Xfce4 need hal as well, (thunar), > > It used to, using hal for automounting removable media. Support for > that was removed upstream in xfce a while back, 4.6 I think. Maybe > hal can do something else for xfce, but I haven't noticed it since > removing hal a year ago. > >> I prefer to let hald enabled as default. Reason is a lot pepole still >> need it. > > Yes, unfortunately. We can only ask porters to make hal optional when > the ported software supports that. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-x11@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-x11 > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-x11-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" I'm going to be playing with removing HAL support in PC-BSD here in the near future. We've created our own auto-mounting GUI application, which works regardless of the DE being used. Plus mav@ has created some patches he will be hopefully be putting into HEAD soon, which does CD/DVD insert notification / polling for devd. With this in place I'm not sure what else HAL would be needed for. Does Xorg still use it for anything, like mouse detection? -- Kris Moore PC-BSD Software iXsystems