From owner-freebsd-chat Tue Sep 19 22:13:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mailhost01.reflexnet.net (mailhost01.reflexnet.net [64.6.192.82]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0269A37B422; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 22:13:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 149.211.6.64.reflexcom.com ([64.6.211.149]) by mailhost01.reflexnet.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.197.19); Tue, 19 Sep 2000 22:11:47 -0700 Received: (from cjc@localhost) by 149.211.6.64.reflexcom.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e8K5Che17776; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 22:12:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cjc) Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 22:12:42 -0700 From: "Crist J . Clark" To: Laurence Berland Cc: Bill Fumerola , clefevre@citeweb.net, Akbar , freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: wats so special about freeBSD? Message-ID: <20000919221242.O367@149.211.6.64.reflexcom.com> Reply-To: cjclark@alum.mit.edu References: <89731E9AF92BD411869200D0B71BB4DC0FC297@ASERVER> <200009191942.e8JJgMc03338@gits.dyndns.org> <20000920001652.U66839@jade.chc-chimes.com> <39C83CC6.9BCD1F32@confusion.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <39C83CC6.9BCD1F32@confusion.net>; from stuyman@confusion.net on Tue, Sep 19, 2000 at 11:27:50PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Sep 19, 2000 at 11:27:50PM -0500, Laurence Berland wrote: > I think people tend to assume that because... [snip] > they have done the big code audit, that they are more secure. [snip] > I don't think OpenBSD has much over FreeBSD in terms of quality > of code, but the perception sort of persists because they are always > pushing themselves as security. > > Am I crazy? No, you are not. You partially answered your own question. OpenBSD is considered more secure because, (a) "They have done the big code audit." (You got that one.) (b) They ship a secure default. Not FreeBSD, nor any other open source OS I am aware of, has done (a). FreeBSD sacrifices (b) for having some stuff work "out of the box." I use FreeBSD and it cannot be said FreeBSD is not one of the more secure OSes out there (with the standard caveat, "when properly configured"), but I think OpenBSD has every right to make the claims they do. -- Crist J. Clark cjclark@alum.mit.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message