From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 12 08:13:47 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 568F916A401 for ; Fri, 12 May 2006 08:13:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthias.andree@gmx.de) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.de [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EB80A43D46 for ; Fri, 12 May 2006 08:13:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from matthias.andree@gmx.de) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 12 May 2006 08:13:44 -0000 Received: from p50911DB3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (EHLO m2a2.dyndns.org) [80.145.29.179] by mail.gmx.net (mp028) with SMTP; 12 May 2006 10:13:44 +0200 X-Authenticated: #428038 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by merlin.emma.line.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56F0C200BDB for ; Fri, 12 May 2006 10:13:43 +0200 (CEST) Received: from m2a2.dyndns.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (m2a2.dyndns.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 08377-17 for ; Fri, 12 May 2006 10:13:42 +0200 (CEST) Received: by merlin.emma.line.org (Postfix, from userid 500) id D4FC5200C07; Fri, 12 May 2006 10:13:41 +0200 (CEST) From: Matthias Andree To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <44640422.1000006@rogers.com> (Mike Jakubik's message of "Thu, 11 May 2006 23:42:26 -0400") References: <44600A42.7030600@samsco.org> <44601F4A.9070802@elischer.org> <446021DE.6040507@rogers.com> <20060511210912.GA1344@zaphod.nitro.dk> <4463DC96.70908@rogers.com> <446402BB.7050201@alumni.rice.edu> <44640422.1000006@rogers.com> X-PGP-Key: http://home.pages.de/~mandree/keys/GPGKEY.asc Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 10:13:41 +0200 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.110005 (No Gnus v0.5) Emacs/21.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at emma.line.org X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.1 Released X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 08:13:47 -0000 Mike Jakubik writes: > Jonathan Noack wrote: >> The *entire* errata page was from 6.0; it was a mistake. This wasn't >> some "put on the rose-colored classes and gloss over major issues" >> thing. It was a long release cycle and something was forgotten. C'est >> la vie. It's always a good idea to check the most up-to-date version of >> the errata page on the web anyway, so it's *not* too late to update it. >> >> > > How convenient. These problems needed to be addressed in the release > notes, not some on line version. You lost connection to the ground, Mike. Come back please :-) People make mistakes, and that applies to both the code as to the documentation, and users will know that sometimes problems will be found only after the release so they'll check online later when running into a problem. The 6.1 release announcement already mentioned the errata lapsus BTW and asked people to check on-line, so it appears someone's asking for perfection -- but it was decided months ago to stick to a schedule rather than making perfect releases. Having said that, 6.1 is a real and visible improvement over 6.0 for me. 6.1 is usable, where 6.0 toppled over every few minutes (I'm talking about ral(4) and other nasty stuff such as tmpfs/mdmfs panics in 6.0 - ral(4) is what prompted me to do the 5.4->6.0 upgrade). -- Matthias Andree