From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 3 15:00:30 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4386A37B401 for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 15:00:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from srv1.cosmo-project.de (srv1.cosmo-project.de [213.83.6.106]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04AD743F85 for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 15:00:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andreas@klemm.apsfilter.org) Received: from srv1.cosmo-project.de (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by srv1.cosmo-project.de (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h53M0QrN003438 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Wed, 4 Jun 2003 00:00:27 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from andreas@klemm.apsfilter.org) Received: (from uucp@localhost)h53M0PCB003434; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 00:00:26 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from andreas@klemm.apsfilter.org) Received: from titan.klemm.apsfilter.org (localhost.klemm.apsfilter.org [127.0.0.1]) by klemm.apsfilter.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h53LuJeL005100; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 23:56:24 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from andreas@titan.klemm.apsfilter.org) Received: (from andreas@localhost) by titan.klemm.apsfilter.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h53Lu84g005099; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 23:56:08 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 23:56:08 +0200 From: Andreas Klemm To: Stefan Bethke , Frank Nobis Message-ID: <20030603215608.GA5041@titan.klemm.apsfilter.org> References: <20030603055718.GA4763@titan.klemm.apsfilter.org> <20030603055718.GA4763@titan.klemm.apsfilter.org> <3D9375F6-95A6-11D7-A28C-000393496BE8@lassitu.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In-Reply-To: <3D9375F6-95A6-11D7-A28C-000393496BE8@lassitu.de> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.1-RC X-Disclaimer: A free society is one where it is safe to be unpopular User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: whats an UDMA ICRC error ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2003 22:00:30 -0000 On Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 11:32:06AM +0200, Stefan Bethke wrote: > Am Dienstag, 03.06.03, um 07:57 Uhr (Europe/Berlin) schrieb Andreas=20 > Klemm: >=20 > >ad2: UDMA ICRC error cmd=3Dread fsbn 74689079 of 74689079-74689206=20 > >retrying > >ad2: UDMA ICRC error cmd=3Dread fsbn 74689079 of 74689079-74689206=20 > >retrying > > > >What exactly does an UDMA ICRC error mean ? > >I think this is simply a read error. > >AFAIK an IDE disk doesn't have spare sectors or am I wrong ? > >How severe is this error ? What do you think ?? >=20 > IDE disks have (hidden) spare sectors, and will transparently remap=20 > sectors as long as they have spare ones left. >=20 > If the drive reports errors ("hard error reading fsbn..."), then it=20 > likely has run out of spare sectors, and probably will die soon. o.k., but this is luckily not the case now ;-) On Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 12:52:01PM +0200, Frank Nobis wrote: > Andreas Klemm writes: >=20 > Hallo Andreas, >=20 > > Hi, > >=20 > > my console today shows the following error message from > > my disk: > >=20 > > ad2: UDMA ICRC error cmd=3Dread fsbn 74689079 of 74689079-74689206 retr= ying > > ad2: UDMA ICRC error cmd=3Dread fsbn 74689079 of 74689079-74689206 retr= ying > >=20 > > What exactly does an UDMA ICRC error mean ? > > I think this is simply a read error. > > AFAIK an IDE disk doesn't have spare sectors or am I wrong ? > > How severe is this error ? What do you think ?? > >=20 >=20 > ich hatte genau diese Fehler vor einiger Zeit, als ich auf ATA 100 > Platten umgestiegen bin. Die Fehler sind sofort verschwunden als ich > mit richtigen UDMA100 Kabeln die Platten angeschlossen hatte. Well, will have to check cabling, this was also an answer I=20 got on this topic. Thanks to you all Andreas /// --=20 Andreas Klemm - Powered by FreeBSD 4.8-STABLE Need a magic printfilter today ? -> http://www.apsfilter.org/